DW 4.5 - Dreams and Nightmares!!

[Lamont]

MODS Feel free to move this to the correct forum. Everything is all swapped so I have no clue :P.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/banner.jpg

Ok, this is an Unofficial GameArtisans.org competition! Everyone seemed to be a bit bent out of shape about no DW this year. So a nice civil war has brewed while all the Dominance War combatants were sleeping. This war is between a different breed of combatants. From a realm who's inhabitants are hundreds of thousands of years old, and span every corner of the galaxy. They are timeless. They are infinite. They are the Dreams and Nightmares of every conscious life-form in the universe. When we sleep, they come to be. And it's up to you to give them life and a realm to exist!

The judges are ready to go!! Give them something to oooh and ahhh about!

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Your mission is to create an entry from the following diciplines: Concept, Character and Environment. Below you will find all the information you need for your submission!

Team efforts are encouraged!! The concept artist can collaborate with the Character/Enviro for the ideas. Even put the character in the environment!! Go nuts!!

As always, show your work in your respective threads :).

DEADLINE MAY 22nd 2010!!!

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Character Guidelines

Create a nightmare or dream inspired character!! Be as twisted or surreal as your mind can go...

A maximum of 15,000 tris (if you include pets or multiple character's, everything must be within 15,000 polies)


1 x 2048 Color Map
1 x 2048 Reflection Map
1 x 2048 Specular Map
1 x 2048 Specular Color Map
1 x 2048 Normal Map
1 x 2048 Bump Map
1 x 2048 Opacity(transparency) Map
1 x 2048 Glow map
1 x 2048 Glossiness map


You may not break each type of sheet into smaller sheets.

The Constraints:


2-sided polies with two separate uv channels are permitted.
Your entry must be specifically created for this challenge. Do not use any pieces from previous personal works.
There are no lighting restrictions.
All Game Engines are allowed.
Read Submission requirements below for exact specs for your 5 Final Images.


Pedestals are not included in the poly budget.


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Environment Guidelines

Create a nightmare or dream inspired world, room or environment!! Be as twisted or surreal as your mind can go...

Polycount: 200 000 triangles
IMPORTANT: You have UP to 200k triangles, this doesn't mean you have to use them all. A well Optimized scene always earns respect!
Texture Sheets: 4096x4096 total of texture space for each material pass.

Example: 4096x4096 total for diffuse, 4096x4096 total for normal maps, 4096x4096 total for specular, etc. etc. Breaking texture sheets into smaller sheets is fine.

Skybox: Skybox can use its own 2048x2048 sheet(s)
Lightmaps: Lightmaps may be used, but they are optional.
For all images, Post-processing is allowed, but limited to:


Hue/saturation adjustment
Brightness/contrast or Levels adjustment
Depth of field
Bloom/hdr adjustment
Motion blur
Sharpness filter


RENDERING - A few people were a bit concerned about enviro submissions for Unearthly. For this challenge, use the rendering application of your choice. BUT STICK WITH THE FOLLOWING!!

IF IT CAN'T BE DONE IN TODAY'S COMMERCIAL ENGINES DON'T DO IT!! For instance, no particle/fluids systems unless used to render out to sprite and then applied to texture sheets! Please use your best judgment on this as it will impact future un-official comps. If you have questions about something you are using or doing, feel free to PM me or IM me on MSN.

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Concept Guidelines

You can do an environment, character or both with the nightmare/dreams theme. Have fun!! You can use 3D software to paint over, but it can't be a major part of your submission.

If you team up, play to your teams strengths!! If they are into what you are doing, then the chance for success is greater than if you take them down a road where no one wants to go!!

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Submission Guidelines

You need to start your own thread that will serve as your submission. Thread title will be formatted as follows:


For Environment Artist - DW 4.5 - Enviro - Name
For Character Artist - DW 4.5 - Character - Name
For Concept Artist - DW 4.5 - Concept - Name

Concept - One image depicting a dream/nightmarish world/character no larger than 1200x1200.
Character - One wireframe and two beauty renders of your character posed no larger than 1200x1200.
Environment - One wireframe and two beauty renders of your environment no larger than 1200x1200.

Final Submission Guidelines

The first post of your thread MUST have the final image(s) (Edit post). Your final images will be no larger than 1200x1200.


Q - What do you mean by "soft deadline"?
A - The contest is due on 22nd, and no time is specified as people need to sleep :P, so it gives people a chance to get things in regardless of timezone. If you run into any problems feel free to PM, and if you're damn close to finishing, it will be accepted if you bleed over a bit. I am not worried about people being late, I just want you to finish!!

Model Guidelines : Incomplete entries can still be submitted, but they will not be judged. So finish!!

Prizes - Nothing but the warm sense of satisfaction of a job well done.

Keep in mind to help each other and ask questions. I am on MSN almost all day, feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. If there is something you wanted to do but don't know how, use this as a stepping stone to gain more knowledge.

[Lamont]

For those who can't get the ideas flowing!

Some very talented concept artist over at CGSociety.org (http://www.cgsociety.org/) were kind enough to donate awesome pieces for you to choose from. It is encouraged that you find a concept artist for this challenge. There is a limited number of concepts to choose from.

Here are the images donated. Only use the ones from below and do not use any from their sites. Please visit their site and everyone give them a GA.org salute for the work!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_01.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_01.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_02.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_02.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_03.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_03.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_04.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_04.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_05.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_05.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_06.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_06.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_07.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_07.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_08.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_08.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_09.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_09.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_10.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_10.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_11.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_11.jpg) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_12.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_12.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/icons/dWar_13.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5/dWar_13.jpg)

Here are the artist who made it all possible:

John Kearney
Contact@brushsize.com
http://www.brushsize.com/

Raphael Lacoste
raphael.lacoste@gmail.com
http://www.raphael-lacoste.com/acceuil.html

Gonçalo Pereira
outview@hotmail.com
http://rawgon.blogspot.com/

Olivier Ponsonnet
http://re1v.free.fr/

Bobby Chiu
bobby@imaginismstudios.com
http://www.imaginismstudios.com/

Daniel Lieske
prints@daniellieske.com
http://www.daniellieske.com/

Alex Ruiz
ZIURX@earthlink.net
http://conceptmonster.net/

Jean-Sébastien Rossbach
livingrope@hotmail.com
http://livingrope.free.fr/

Ree Treweek
ree.treweek@gmail.com
http://theblackheartgang.com/

Olivier Cannone
nitrolivier@hotmail.com
http://in-poculis.cgsociety.org/gallery/

Pavel Lagutin
http://www.pavel-lagutin.com/

Martin McKenna
martin@martinmckenna.net
http://www.martinmckenna.net/

Heri Irawan
mail@heriirawan.com
http://www.heriirawan.com/

DEADLINE MAY 22nd 2010!!!

[turbojoys]

Wow, what a big title! how come no one has respond to this ?

[Guedin]

I was sure that if dominance war was post-poned, another big challenge will try to take place anyway.
Good luck with it, I'll try to participate if I have time ;)

[Mrpearlzildjian]

Is this your own personal thing Lamont, or is this sanctioned by the mods too? Just curious. I'm down, already had an idea floating around in my head...

[Lamont]

Is this your own personal thing Lamont, or is this sanctioned by the mods too? Just curious. I'm down, already had an idea floating around in my head...It's sanctioned by the powers that be.

[Dan!]

cool idea shoud be some good idea fodder.

[Ace-Angel]

Cool idea is cool, but in that regard, we don't have any limitations on the 'arch-type' of the work?

Like limited to demons, or cyborgs or even TF2 humanoid cartoony characters?

[Wynn]

ooh cool theme. might try and come up with something for this, i was really looking forward to domwar iv this year.

[Lamont]

Cool idea is cool, but in that regard, we don't have any limitations on the 'arch-type' of the work?

Like limited to demons, or cyborgs or even TF2 humanoid cartoony characters?Dreams and nightmares can be about anything... it's all about what scares you (nightmares) and the opposite: what makes you feel awesome.

Do robots dream of electric sheep? "What an awful dream! Ones and zeroes everywhere!! And I thought I saw a two!!" - Bender from Futurama having a nightmare.

Have fun is all it is, demons, robots, slugs, and one-eyed pimps... whatever... dream or a nightmare. It's about having fun, not locking down into one style.. it's why we (Yung and I) chose some of the images above, some are cartoony, and some are realistic.

[Pshyco]

Awesome idea man! This will become a really crazy 'mini'. I think i'm in...

[Amethyst]

Awesome Lamont, you are really special!!!! Can't wait to see how this will develope.:D

[Yung]

It's meant to be a GRAND 'mini'!

[gam-er]

Awesome I think i Will participate on this one :thumb: Good Luck to everyone...

it would be nice if someone could put this on the Game Competition Forums =) more people will se it and

easier to find

[turbojoys]

hey lamont, i dont quite understand what you mean by "4096x4096 total for diffuse, 4096x4096 total for normal maps, 4096x4096 total for specular"

does that mean all props in the enviro scene must be pack into a 4k map space, 2 X 2k or 4 X 1k, etc?

further, suppose someone is doing character as well as environment, when finished, are they judged seperately or together?

[Ksan]

I am down. Sounds like a good "stretch of the legs" so to speak. Very cool of you to spearhead this Lamont.

Do we make our threads in the main competition section?

[Aftermath]

I approve this message and stuck it.

[Lamont]

"does that mean all props in the enviro scene must be pack into a 4k map space, 2 X 2k or 4 X 1k, etc?Yes. To total usage for the diffuse is 4kx4k, spec 4kx4k and so on...
further, suppose someone is doing character as well as environment, when finished, are they judged seperately or together?Separate, but brownie points are always awesome.

[Arkadius]

Sounds great Lamont!!! I'm in!!! Any concept artist wanna help me out and join forces :)?

[Frump]

Ah! For once a comp with excellent timing. I have been looking for a new project and this sounds great. I already have a lot of ideas. Two months should be a pretty good timeline. :D

I think you should start to promote this some more. Cross post on Polycount, etc. Just to get the word out there. I only found it by being linked from another thread in GD.

[Step]

heh, Interesting idea. Unfortunately I have much work and learning at now. Anyway good luck to all who wants join :).

[gam-er]

as i say this should be in the game COmp Forums!!!!

i already have some ideas, any concept artist wanna help me out with the ideas i alraeady have??

[Jimin3D]

You know I am so in I am SO SO SO IN!!

Questions

will we see this in the game COmp Forums?

Do we make our threads in the main competition section?

Is this as official as Dominance War 4.5 is going to get no one else is going to do one like FredH ThatDon or Josh Singh?

I think this is a great idea Lamont thank you you are a legend. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[Lamont]

will we see this in the game COmp Forums? Do we make our threads in the main competition section?Hopefully it will get moved there soon. If you start a thread, do it in the WIP 2D or 3D sections and correctly name your thread. When they get moved it will be easier to spot.
Is this as official as Dominance War 4.5 is going to get no one else is going to do one like FredH ThatDon or Josh Singh?This is as good as it gets for this years DW, and this is a fraction of what it takes to deal with Dominance War. Josh and ThatDon run two awesome comps, so I am sure between that and work they are busy. Fred is fighting for his life in the Frozen North (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hay+River+Canada&sll=60.449091,-114.900513&sspn=2.525415,8.453979&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hay+River,+Fort+Smith+Region,+Northwest+Territories,+Canada&z=10), so he's busy. But to do something like this and organize, hopefully will be a success as we can always do more as long as it doesn't step on any toes.

BTW: Yung pinged me about doing this and helped a lot with getting the concept and contacting said artist to get approval. He also made the banner, all I did was sit and look pretty while mashing my palms on the keyboard.

[FredH]

Looks like a great comp. I have converted one of the competition forums for your use. Additionally, since this is an unofficial challenge, a few high place winners, providing they post their work in the showcase forums, will be awarded with GA awards of excellence.

http://www.gameartisans.org/gamecon/images/icons/award_GA.gif

If the entry is really good, an interview will be conducted with the champion artist. Good luck to all those who enter! Looking forward to seeing everyone's work.

[akacg]

This is gonna be pretty sweet so im im!

Ha my nightmare right now is my computer going to hell. It has a viris. I am obviously going with a different idea for this comp though ha.

good luck

[Beartastic]

Great idea Lamont, I love scary stuff.

[Lamont]

Good luck everyone :D!! Glad you all like it :)

[YdoUwant2know]

Sweet! Thank you Lamont! :thumb:

Just a quick question... Why is it when ever I start working on a project for another forum, a new even more awesome competition get launched here? :brick:

[Duncan Fraser]

Hay what an awesome concept, good job Lamont. I am really sad I am going to miss it. :( :(

[grimdc13]

Are there any more requirements for CONCEPT ARTISTS..it's pretty bare!!!

Do we just do a picture ...no model or process sheet, like regular DW or UC?????

It seems it's just written for 3d..and it needs to be revised a bit please.

Pretty Please with sugar on top ? :)

[Yung]

When in doubt, look back at Dominance War and Comicon Challenge's specs and submission guide, generally it would be good to follow the previous comps' specs.

But I will bring this up with Lamont

[Lamont]

Are there any more requirements for CONCEPT ARTISTS..it's pretty bare!!!

Do we just do a picture ...no model or process sheet, like regular DW or UC?????

It seems it's just written for 3d..and it needs to be revised a bit please.

Pretty Please with sugar on top ? :)I dunno what to say for concept. But like Yung said, take a look at Comicon. Just show progress is all really.

Oh and all concept must be done with your feet only... forgot that one.

[Absorber]

Cool idea, I've only checked it very quick because I'm freakinn busy! But when I have the time I definitely check this one out! :D

Good luck to everyone!

[divi]

does that mean all props in the enviro scene must be pack into a 4k map space, 2 X 2k or 4 X 1k, etc?


there are 4 2k textures in a 4k texture. or 16 1k textures.

[Edie Leonhart]

Good. I'm inside.

[Sinok426]

Great comp Lamont! i will do my concept with the left foot

[SinEater]

this sound really fun,i would like to join as well but i'm not sure i'll have the time to work on it :(

[Ashurii]

this is one I will definitely have to sleep on, my usual nightmare of being chased by a giant frog just won't cut it I think.

[Hellmouth]

I'm confused. Do you have to make an entry for each discipline? Or necessarily find a team in order to compete?

[turbojoys]

there are 4 2k textures in a 4k texture. or 16 1k textures.

:uhh: ozzi ,,, my bad haha ,,, thx 4 correcting me

[Saven]

Great one, I love to join this

[Yung]

I'm confused. Do you have to make an entry for each discipline? Or necessarily find a team in order to compete?

You are Encouraged to find a team, but it's not necessary. The overall objective of the game is to do it like a relay run, where the concept artist bust out artwork then the environment and character artists run with it.

But feel free to join any of the category.

[David-J]

Great topic. I love it. Hope I can make some time to join in.

Cheers everyone!!!

[katana]

very interesting...might be nice to have a go at it.

[Joyal]

is there a champion for each skill-set? Environment champion, Character Champion, 2d Champion??? Or will one Artist rule them all?

[xerious3d]

Pretty sure it is separate...

JUST an FYI, a couple have started in WIP 3D section already should we contact a specific admin to move them or they will move it at there own time and etc...?

[Ksan]

I think it is cool that this time there is a more bare-bones...make an illustration/concept comp. I love doing my process, and model sheets are great. That being said, without them, I know I can get this done and am relieved to not have to worry about layouts and such, just doing a rad painting. I'm good with the way it is for this one, and I'll still be showing progress :thumb:

[ARKGNOSiS]

Lamont, this is really a wonderful subject matter for a challenge. My content staff and I will be participating in this challenge either as a team or individually. It will allow us to stretch our legs creatively with a concept and subject matter in a way that will allow a diverse breath of creativity outside of our everyday serious gaming objectives. My hat goes off to you man for putting this together, if you need anything just ask. I would be thrilled to help out wherever I can. I am really looking forward to everyone's submissions and feedback. Best of luck everyone.

[Lamont]

is there a champion for each skill-set? Environment champion, Character Champion, 2d Champion??? Or will one Artist rule them all?A champ for each skill-set :D.

[Kennymcb]

Awesome comp! Count me in.

[UrbanSasquatch]

can we render using V-ray?

[BigJohn]

What's the status on the 3d/sculpting minis while this is running? Just curious

[Lamont]

is there a champion for each skill-set? Environment champion, Character Champion, 2d Champion??? Or will one Artist rule them all?A champ for each skill-set :D.

[Lamont]

can we render using V-ray?Fine by me.

Environments - I will leave it up to you to use your best judgment to determine how far to take it and not abuse using v-ray. Remember what was said above: "If it can't be done in any current engines blah, blah, blah...". I just want to remove that extra step people sometimes don't want to deal with or get hung up on of getting a nice viewport grab or getting it into some engine just to make a purdy picture.

Characters - go nuts.

The underlying goal of this comp: make something that will boost knowledge, skills and add a quality piece to your portfolios.

[Saven]

Hi Lamont,
Great topic, a questions here for u, I am not concept artist, but i would like to go for a rought basic idea n then translate it into 3d character,but would love to have an environment going with it, if i do soo in the character catagory ,should i be using 15K TRIS only including the environment?and with 1 texture page 2048 for both character n environment.how do i go about this??? can u highlight plz.

[Lamont]

Hi Lamont,
Great topic, a questions here for u, I am not concept artist, but i would like to go for a rought basic idea n then translate it into 3d character,but would love to have an environment going with it, if i do soo in the character catagory ,should i be using 15K TRIS only including the environment?and with 1 texture page 2048 for both character n environment.how do i go about this??? can u highlight plz.The budget for characters and environments are separate. And if you wish to combine them into one scene, make it clear in your submission.

[Yung]

Saven, treat the environment piece and the character piece as separate entries. Meaning you will be using the specs for environment and character combined for your case, but the judging entries (till corrected) will still be judged per category. Emm hope it make sense.

[WhiteGuardian]

One question.
Can i do character 3d and concept art with same character idea? :think:

[Saven]

Thanx Lamont and Yung, for a quick feedback, Ok its clear for me, I will goahead with taking both separatelly,n use the spec given to each catagory, (character -15K tris, 2048 maps) (environment-offcourse less than 200K with 4096 map)

[RuanWest]

Great idea Lamont/Yung, sounds like fun, I'm in.

[Lamont]

Great idea Lamont/Yung, sounds like fun, I'm in.The more the better :).

[Remmers]

Chris89 and I are probably in as a team for this one!
Looking forward to it

[Kristyan]

ooooo, i was seeing the deadline wrong,it's may 22nd,not april! i guess i'll jump in this one,the more the merrier yeah? well anyway,gonna take a break without a computer for a full wekk starting next week,but i'll still have about a month right? then hell yeah!!i'm gonna IN!:D

[SpikeCB]

Sweet!
If I can find the time, count me in! :D


I actually missed the smaller challenges, and I think this one has a super awesome theme :D

[akacg]

Lamont - Hey question. This might have all ready came up but if you are makin a character dose the base pedestal count in the 15k?
Thanks

[Lamont]

Lamont - Hey question. This might have all ready came up but if you are makin a character dose the base pedestal count in the 15k?
ThanksPedestals are not included in the poly budget.

[WhiteGuardian]

Hmm....no one help to answer my question :(

[Lamont]

One question.
Can i do character 3d and concept art with same character idea? :think:Yes you can.

[Blacklion]

Sounds Good and great idea guys!!
my Dom war idea wont go to waste after all :D

Count me in!

[Rohar]

Not sure how good I'll do, but I definitely want to give this a try :)

[Lamont]

Not sure how good I'll do, but I definitely want to give this a try :)Just do your best :)

[DV8]

cool, i've just the thing in mind :)

[gam-er]

Lamont should we make like a backroud sheet like ones at official DW??

[Edie Leonhart]

I can only show the character and environment and also need to present the concept art to participate?

[Lamont]

I can only show the character and environment and also need to present the concept art to participate?No, concept is there for you to get your ideas down. You do not need to do a concept submission. If you choose to enter all 3, great, if not, then you can do just characters or environments (or both).
Lamont should we make like a background sheet like ones at official DW??If it helps you in your creative process, go for it. I want to let you guy concentrate on making the artwork.

[aser]

Hi everyone!

I like this one, I'm in.
I hope I will have time to finish it.

Best regards & good luck everyone!

[velvetrevolver]

sweet! lets rock~!

[Jimin3D]

Ok it's time to rock this comp I am in. :thumb:

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The Night knightL: angel of nightmares
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?p=204178#post204178

[Scorch]

Hey all just wondering for the comp if you are allowed to mix a nightmare environment with a dream character. be an interesting contrast for an idea i have.

thanks

[chris89]

*Raises hand*

"can 2 environment artists make a single environment as a team?"

`shut up chris! no talking before your turn!`

":("

[Cyrael]

Yea I was actually wondering the same thing I'm thinking about entering both the enviro and the character.. so if 2 ppl work on the enviro is that cool?

[Grimm_Wrecking]

Lamont, when you say post-processing
For all images, Post-processing is allowed, but limited to:
Hue/saturation adjustment
Brightness/contrast or Levels adjustment
Depth of field
Bloom/hdr adjustment
Motion blur
Sharpness filter

do you mean PP in photoshop or in engine?
and if you're referring to in engine I suppose this means no material based PP?

[illusion]

Great idea! I'm in too )))
Hope, I will be able to finish in time :)

[Lamont]

Lamont, when you say post-processing

do you mean PP in photoshop or in engine?
and if you're referring to in engine I suppose this means no material based PP?Those are in-engine.

Like what was said above "If it can be done in a commercial engine, go for it.". If you can make a wicked PPE for UDK or what have you, go for it. It's "in engine".

[Lamont]

*Raises hand*

"can 2 environment artists make a single environment as a team?"

`shut up chris! no talking before your turn!`

":("Yes. And go wait outside for talking out of turn, Mr. Talkie-pants.

Yea I was actually wondering the same thing I'm thinking about entering both the enviro and the character.. so if 2 ppl work on the enviro is that cool?That's fine.

[lala0323]

what a big title!

[usersen]

Can you submit multiple entries in the same category? examples: making two separate small environments solo or being a part two separate environment teams

[Lamont]

If you have the time to do multiple entries, be my guest.

[wim]

Hi, Imagine, you have a character, an inviroment and a vehicle, together one nice peace.
can they be judged than as 2 solo characters and a envi.?
Just to make a little story behind.
Does it matter in how it's rendered? And post production, can I add dust and stuff also, or do I have to make it with particles to generate the effect?

[Lamont]

Hi, Imagine, you have a character, an inviroment and a vehicle, together one nice peace.
can they be judged than as 2 solo characters and a envi.?
It would be one character and one environment (vehicle/environment). The vehicle will be a part of your overall environment budget.
Does it matter in how it's rendered? And post production, can I add dust and stuff also, or do I have to make it with particles to generate the effect?You can't do touch-ups like that. A little color editing is fine, but painting in effects/details after, no.

What you use to display your final image is up to you, but please use your best judgment on what effects to put in. We're GameArtisans... not CGChannel. This is more for the environment guys than anything else. I want to see where this goes by removing the "viewport grab, standard scanline render, engine screenshot" requirement.


not to dis CGChannel, you guys are alright!

[Yung]

I believe the approach is "If this current-gen engine can do it, then you are allowed to".

[Kristyan]

hmm according to yung as nextgen games does,then,if i make some special fx but using object with alpha texture and such, would it count to the character count or it was like pedestal ( counted as cosmetics)?
for the beauty shot of course...

[Lamont]

hmm according to yung as nextgen games does,then,if i make some special fx but using object with alpha texture and such, would it count to the character count or it was like pedestal ( counted as cosmetics)?
for the beauty shot of course...If it's like flames from a sword or weapon or the character, it's counted as the budget. Same as if they were an angel and loose feathers were floating around.

[_S9_]

Interesting challenge, nice to see some of Bobby Chiu's art in there, i've never really finished a challenge and could definitely use the exercise if it wasn't for lack of time, are we allowed to collaborate? if so anyone wanna join up and kick some ass? good luck all..!

[Lamont]

Interesting challenge, nice to see some of Bobby Chiu's art in there, i've never really finished a challenge and could definitely use the exercise if it wasn't for lack of time, are we allowed to collaborate? if so anyone wanna join up and kick some ass? good luck all..!Collaborations are fine. And I am sure there is someone who is willing to get down with ya :lucky:

[enkei]

This is funny theme!

i like it!

[Gominoid]

Hello there!
Cool topic, congratulations Lamont for the initiative!

Got a question about Concept...
I've got an idea but to illustrate it I must focus on the situation, I mean I was thinking in doing something more like a painting that includes characters and an enviroment in it, but the main focus of the concept is in What is going on in the image, not in the design of the environment nor the characters.

So my question is... are we forced to focus in the conceptual design of the character/environment or my idea is valid?

Thanks in advance for your answer and sorry if you don't understand my english, I'm not a native speaker.

[crazyfingers]

Haha, blast! I was so pumped for this but unfortunately i'm busy with school among other things :(.

Lookin' forward to the finished entries guys :D

[Pussik]

There is requirement ARTEFACT for character, like in other dominance wars?

[Lamont]

There is requirement ARTEFACT for character, like in other dominance wars?Artifact you mean? If so, then no, just make something from a dream or nightmare.

[Pussik]

Sorry for stupid question, maybe I didn't read attentively.
There must be 5 images, max 1200x1200px. 2 beauty shots and what are 3 others? Construction shot, texture shot and concept shot?

[KingV]

Check those WIP post,
It's seem like lots of people chose Nightmare.
Hope t see more wonderful artwork.
Goodluck everyone

[Steamtrooper]

Hi all, Im new here and hoping to participate in either the Concept or Character category - Id like to team if theres anyone still looking - idealy with Enviro artist, but would accept a good conceptor.

Give me a buzz on Adamtherocket@hotmail.com

and Hi Lex nice to see you still active somewhere shame I didnt grab u before u started :D

[Severo]

I've only just discovered this comp, but I think I'll join, better late than never ^^, have to make up for not finishing UC! Are we allowed to use lightmass for our final images?

[Lamont]

Sorry for stupid question, maybe I didn't read attentively.
There must be 5 images, max 1200x1200px. 2 beauty shots and what are 3 others? Construction shot, texture shot and concept shot?Just submit the two beauty shots and wireframe.

[Lamont]

I've only just discovered this comp, but I think I'll join, better late than never ^^, have to make up for not finishing UC! Are we allowed to use lightmass for our final images?It's in UDK. Unreal is an engine, and what it puts out is used for games. So go for it.

[PhattyG]

Cool Idea. Lots of scope for interesting stuff. look forward to see what people come up with.

[Serial19]

I'm in, but won't start till next week. I love the idea. It's very open.

[BIGFISH043]

I got some time lately so here I go! lets activate braincells a bit and bye bye BFBC2 till may 22 !!! :D

[Lamont]

Good good :) the more the better!!

[boyblu3]

Theres a rule in Unearthly Challenge usually that doesn't allow any characters/animals or representations of them does that apply to this challenge for environments?

[Lamont]

Theres a rule in Unearthly Challenge usually that doesn't allow any characters/animals or representations of them does that apply to this challenge for environments?Nope. Then that means you're doing characters and Enviro. So you have both budgets.

[PoopaScoop]

Ah, this is very short contest, and I've only just seen it now >.<. Can't you make it much long as I'm sure alot of people, like me, didn't see this on day 1, where I believe you'd have to start to really enter a decent piece. :)
I believe the original Dominance is like 2.5-3mouths months :p

[Lamont]

Ah, this is very short contest, and I've only just seen it now >.<. I think not seeing it till now makes it "very short" ;).
Can't you make it much long as I'm sure alot of people, like me, didn't see this on day 1, where I believe you'd have to start to really enter a decent piece. :)
I myself knew of the deadline and the start-date well before anyone :D and I am hardly into UV mapping with one week to go. I can not extend the deadline, there's a good number of people who saw this and jumped in and are making good progress. To extend the deadline would in my opinion start a trickle down of things I don't want to go into.

For the people who did do this and will get in on time, and for the judges who are taking out some of their time, I should be on time as well. But this isn't the end of comps for GA or PC, there's plenty to go around and I am thinking of other things for GA to do as well.

So to answer the question: No, I can't/won't.

[Lamont]

Alright, everyone getting there? No issues with submissions, final questions?

[Erigo]

Lamont , tell me please which time zone in the deadline "mar 22" !

[Lamont]

Lamont , tell me please which time zone in the deadline "mar 22" !Your own timezone.

So really just hand it in over the weekend.

[Pussik]

So if I'll update my thread tomorrow (saturday), it will be ok? :)

[Lamont]

So if I'll update my thread tomorrow (saturday), it will be ok? :)It's ok. Good luck.

[Ksan]

so there won't be a final burning or anything like that? We just post it in the first post of our thread?

[Lamont]

First post of the thread, so I can gather all the images and set up the judges page.

[Rayph]

We do have till midnight on the 22nd right?

*edit* sorry missed the last part of the original post...DOH!

[MCDP]

I was wondering if there is going to be an extend on the contest like maybe a couple of days

[Lamont]

Your own timezone.

So really just hand it in over the weekend.Yeah, I said that a few posts ago. Again:


Over the weekend folks. I'm going to start collecting the images Monday. This is the "Soft Deadline" part I mentioned in the original post ;).

[littlephsycho]

yesssss thx lamont, you saved my ass^^

[Pussik]

There is some image weight limitation?

[Lamont]

Read the very first post on this thread.

[Pussik]

I don't see there any mention about weight of submitted images. Only res 1200x1200, but this is not what I mean.

Of course we don't send our projects by e-mail, so there should not be any limitations of images weight, but better ask and put more life into this thread.

[rickardwestman]

Pussik (and everyone else for that matter), take a look at what Fred wrote and page 2 in this thread.

"Looks like a great comp. I have converted one of the competition forums for your use. Additionally, since this is an unofficial challenge, a few high place winners, providing they post their work in the showcase forums, will be awarded with GA awards of excellence.

If the entry is really good, an interview will be conducted with the champion artist. Good luck to all those who enter! Looking forward to seeing everyone's work."

Pussik - The showcase forum allows you to put a 1000w x 1000h image, 250kb.
If i remember correctly the official dominance war restrictions were 1200 x 1200, 350kb.

[Lamont]

But I don't think we have access to the submission side of the forums. So I am going to he hand collecting all the entries and making a page.

[Pussik]

I asked Lamont, and there is no file size limitation.

And you remember almost correctly. DW4 restriction is 1200x1000px and 350k.

[Yung]

I am helping Lamont with the entry collection. Like he mentioned, we don't have a file submission system, so we are gonna be doing this manually.

So please help me out everyone, IN YOUR FIRST POST of your thread, put your real name_titleofwork and post all your images there. If I don't see any outwork there I will assume it's unfinished.

I will compile everything and post a list of names later. Great work everyone!

PS one more note. PLEASE EVERYONE STOP CONGRATING OR REPLYING TO THE FINSHED WORK for now. Thanks!

[Lamont]

Alright everyone!! Here's are the completed entries in all their glory! I am creating the package for the Judges now, and soon will get started with choosing the best of the best :). To those of us who did not finish in time, keep working on it, let's try to limit the amount of "WIPs" we have on our HDD's!!


----------- Characters -----------

Rohar - Character- Spider...Man
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Rohar_Char_Spiderman.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204073&postcount=1)

Sinok426 - Character - Sleeper
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Sinok426_Char_Sleeper.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204625&postcount=1)

EmJaeR/Marcel Rowe - Character - BoogeySpawn
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/EmJaeR_Char_BoogeySpawn.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205076&postcount=1)

mattyd_11 - Character - The Weaver of Dreams
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/MattD_11_Char_WeaverofDreams.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204009&postcount=1)

Edie Leonhart - Character - Devil And Angel
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/EdieLeonhart_Char_DevilandAngel.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=209242&postcount=1)

Floydshayvious - Character - Ah Puch
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Floydshayvious_Char_AhPuch.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=206840&postcount=1)

Pussik - Character - The Lady of Pain
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Pussik_Char_LadyofPain.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204994&postcount=1)

Kennymcb - Character - Winter Dryad
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Kennymcb_Char_WinterDryad.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204090&postcount=1)

Erigo - Character - Spirit Of Poverty
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Erigo_Char_SpiritOfPoverty.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205178&postcount=1)

doses - Character - The rotting souls
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Doses_Char_RottingSouls.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=206260&postcount=1)

Kristyan - Character - Lee-Na
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Kristyan_Char_LeeNa.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204042&postcount=1)

devoid - Character- Hunter
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Devoid_Char_Hunter.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205251&postcount=1)

littlephsycho - Character - tooth fairy
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Littlephsycho_Char_ToothFairy.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204963&postcount=1)

superfly - Character - Animus
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Superfly_Char_Animus.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205745&postcount=1)

Dan! - Character - Queen Succubus
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Dan!_Char_QueenSuccubus.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=203759&postcount=1)

obeyurnapster - Character - Mad doctor
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Obeyurnapster_Char_MadDoctor.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204802&postcount=1)

MCDP - Character Skeleton Rip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/MCDP_Char_SkeletonRip.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204705&postcount=1)


----------- Characters/Environments -----------

schiefer/pepp0r - Environment/Character - Nameless Horror
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/schiefer_Dual_Char_NamelessHorror.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204642&postcount=1)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/pepp0r_Dual_Envi_NamelessHorror.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204724&postcount=2)


----------- Environments -----------

SuckADuck - Environment - Secret of the Willows
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/SuckADuck_Envi_SecretOfWillows.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204560&postcount=1)


----------- Concept -----------

DV8 - Concept - Lilith
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/DV8_Conc_Lilith.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204929&postcount=1)

Jerain - Concept - Smog
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Jerain_Conc_Smog.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=208764&postcount=1)

Ksan - Concept- When Good Dreams Go Bad
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Ksan_Conc_GoodDreamsGoBad.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204522&postcount=1)

aragornbird - Concept - Dreamscape
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/aragornbird_Conc_Dreamscape.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=209259&postcount=6)

radeaton - Concept - HAZEL
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/radeaton_Conc_HAZEL.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=208839&postcount=1)

Ex0rc15t - Concept - Thanatus
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Ex0rc15t_Conc_Thanatus.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205196&postcount=1)

Wikz - Concept - Parasite
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Wikz_Conc_Parasite.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205052&postcount=1)

ACap - Concept - Golden sage
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/ACap_Conc_GoldenSage.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=207966&postcount=1)

Davek - Concept - Dinner is ready!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/Davek_Conc_DinnerIsReady.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204238&postcount=1)

hyperkid - Concept - Dark Horror
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/hyperkid_Conc_DarkHorror.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=204493&postcount=1)

WhiteGuardian - Concept - Nightmare Insect
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/WhiteGuardian_Conc_NightmareInsect.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=208390&postcount=1)

Rickardwestman - Concept - Feeding
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/DW4.5Finals/icons/rickardwestman_Conc_Feeding.jpg (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showpost.php?p=206033&postcount=1)

[Lamont]

I would like to add, that some of you will be asked for desktops.

[BiG ToE]

nice job with this Lamont.

Big pat on the back.

[Mrpearlzildjian]

So suckaduck wins environments by default? lol

[Pussik]

Hehehe. :)
Weak competition in enviro category, but there was only 7weeks, and not everyone saw challenge 1st day.
Concept category, for me, looks strong, but I'm not 2D specialist.

Good job Lamont

[Lamont]

The judges are judging!! Sit tight!!

[Lamont]

Almost done!!

So this is what's going to happen:

Top 3 in each category and then top overall.

[Kristyan]

wooo
pissing on pants....:D
hope to see the result and cheers to all :lucky:

[superfly]

that i almost got swallowed by the screen!! omg... :eek:

[Pussik]

Cool, I can't wait. :)

[Lamont]

Getting closer, just to keep you all up to date: After I get all the judges info, I will need to compile and create the post for this. But tonight I will jump the gun and make artwork for all entries and all I have to do is just put the winners in and format the text.

So after I get the results, I will not go to bed till it`s been posted.

[superfly]

well... there will only be 3 winners then from each category.. will the not-winners get some feedback too?

[Kristyan]

ou ou,feedback,well,if it's not too much,we would like to hear it too,hahaha ( almost confident losing...)

[BiG ToE]

the way feedback works, as far as judging goes, the judges comment on the artwork they picked. So, if one of the judges picked you, then you will have some feedback, but if not, then you would need to rely on the comments in your WIP thread.

It's a bit much at ask a judge to write up a comment for every single entry.

[Lamont]

the way feedback works, as far as judging goes, the judges comment on the artwork they picked. So, if one of the judges picked you, then you will have some feedback, but if not, then you would need to rely on the comments in your WIP thread.

It's a bit much at ask a judge to write up a comment for every single entry.Yes. It's over 31 entries. Feedback is important, but like what was said, many people, and the judges did a great job with the time they had, and some did a lot more than what was asked of them. Which I am very grateful for.

All judging are done. Compiling the list of winners and making the post.

[Kristyan]

well,yeah,that's what i mean if it's not too much...hehe,i know they work so hard to pick,well,trying wont hurt :D
anyway,waiting for the result now :thumb:

[Lamont]

Results are in!! Big thanks to everyone!!

http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14810

Now I am going to bed!!

[Erigo]

Lamont , Yung , and all of you guys who participated and those who supported participationers ! Learned a lot and what no less important - LOT OF FUN ! Thx a lot for this comp. people !

[Yung]

Great work fellows! And I know Lamont already said it, but thank you for making this event a great success! Was very exciting to see the progress and the judging!

[Lamont]

Here are some desktop image :), enjoy!!! Each links to a 1900x1200 image.

(a little room for the taskbar)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/Erigo_s_DW45_bottomSpace.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/Erigo_s_DW45_bottomSpace.jpg)

(Normal)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/Erigo_s_DW45_normalSpace.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/Erigo_s_DW45_normalSpace.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/feeding_dw45_desktop_rickardwestman.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/feeding_dw45_desktop_rickardwestman.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/ga_dw4-5_Dinnerisready_wallpaper_daveisblue.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/ga_dw4-5_Dinnerisready_wallpaper_daveisblue.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/MikePhillipsGAwallpaper.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/MikePhillipsGAwallpaper.jpg)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/sleeper-sinok-dw45.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2851501/dw4.5desktops/images/sleeper-sinok-dw45.jpg)

[Erigo]

good job dude ,thx for posting !