Dominance War III - Announcement

[YdoUwant2know]

1000th post

wow this has got be a record

[Draxxuss]

good luck guys.

[3dsanity]

=] gl to all, and have fun! :)

[Draxxuss]

tough one huh? I'll be brewing over this for awhile I'm sure. got a few sketches drawn out already but not falling in love with any of them yet :)

[danpants]

Too bad we can't team up with a concept artist, my stick figures just don't cut it anymore.

[3dsanity]

Too bad we can't team up with a concept artist, my stick figures just don't cut it anymore.

im right there with u! lol :brick:

[lacer8]

tough one huh? I'll be brewing over this for awhile I'm sure. got a few sketches drawn out already but not falling in love with any of them yet :)
...but it's still unannounced... right?

[BigJohn]

...but it's still unannounced... right?

http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2171

[lacer8]

thanks BigJohn. I found it after asking ;)

[Dash-X]

It will be a pleasure fighting alongside you all. To victory... I guess.

[BiG ToE]

there's a party in my tummy. So yummy, so yummy.

[Masakari]

Move it soldier! :D

Good luck guys!

[Mogster]

I'm gonna go mull over my concepts for a while go out and see some sun before I go bunker up. good luck solders.

[MarciahL]

still nothing ? im getting tired of waiting :P

[ShadyD]

lol dude, you're a peanut!
It's been anounced for almost 11 hours now!
Check the featured thread "Dominance war sneak preview"
it has the briefing in there.

[superclops]

maybe this question has been asked somewhere in the previous 51 pages on this thread, but i was hoping for a tiny clarification on the instructions.

it states that "Your character must wield a single artifact or a pair of similar artifacts"

For the invoker class, can the artifact be worn (eg...as a broach, crown, other jewelry) or does it need to be something hand held

thanks, i know you must be pretty busy right now.

[Mogster]

Well jsut got back and think I have a very nice concept to work upon :> time for looong refrance searching and a little write up lol. off i go for 2 months. tis war

[FredH]

superclops, it should be a hand held weapon. It's true that an ultimate artifact can be anything that resonates power, but for this comp, it'd be better if you kept your powerful weapons clearly shown as something hand held and something everyone is already familiar with as being a weapon (sword, gun, scepter, mace, axe, staff, rod, wand etc).

[Styx]

what about gauntlets?
gauntlets that gives the character the "ultimate power" to hold a very heavy weapon, or so.
is this permitted?

[superclops]

thanks for the quick reply Fredrik,

My only problem with this is now a magic casting character doesnt have the opportunity to cast magic from their hands... which is kind of cool:)
It needs to emmit from items they are holding.

rules are rules though, i'll adjust my concepts accordingly

[Valandar]

what about gauntlets?
gauntlets that gives the character the "ultimate power" to hold a very heavy weapon, or so.
is this permitted?

Ever seen "Hellboy" ? :D

Just add some FX on the gauntlets and it should be cool.

[Marcus Dublin]

Gauntlets and whatever else your imaginations can come up with should be perfectly fine.:)


Ever seen "Hellboy" ? :D

Just add some FX on the gauntlets and it should be cool.

[Shadownami92]

Gauntlets and whatever else your imaginations can come up with should be perfectly fine.:)

Not to mention gauntlets can techinqually be a weapon, well at least they are in all those games with monks and stuff since you can punch people with them.

Same goes for footwear too which would be fun to see implemented into someones character

[FredH]

superclops --> Interesting. Where did you find in the rules that says Invokers or clericons can not use their hands to wield or cast magic?:doh: Spellcasters do what they always do, use themselves to cast magic. Artifacts just give them additional powers. The artifact can be used to maybe enhance their spells, or it can be used to launch effects of their own. It's up to you:thumb:

[Dash-X]

Hey, um... This is kinda a stupid question, and I'm sorry if it's already been answered, but what is the GameArtisans.org planet called? "Game Artisans?"

[ShadyD]

It's called
Planet Shady.
Thank you.


Alright fine, I don't know the answer.

[Mogster]

planet bob.. or well i dunno either... fredatopia -_-!

[BiG ToE]

or Hultqvistville.

[Vicious]

I do believe it is:


Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega Net

-=V=-

[Vrav]

GA makes me think of GAia.

[prayingmantis]

Does our character could use some innate power?
For example I make a reptilian Stalker, can he use his venom to kill his opponent, and at the same time use a summoning artifact to summon other creature?

An other question who is not totally clear for me.
The age of magic start after the use of the Ultimate weapon, Thousand years ago, or does it just appear with the awakening of the machines?

Gauntlets and whatever else your imaginations can come up with should be perfectly fine.:)
Sorry Marcus, but you are also a moderator of this competition? Your saying can be taken as word of God?

Thank you.

[FredH]

I never thought about a planet name. It's actually a tough one:doh:

About your questions prayingmantis, yes, he can use his natural simple innate powers (don't cast a fireball or anything.. because then it would look wrong). And about when magic started, sometime during the 1000 years disapearance of the machines. Probably 500 years after, it's up to you really. I left the story open enough so that artists can let loose with their creativity:)

[Deto]

Planet name,... I was thinking my char is warlord of some tribe called as Garman'Artage :D

[-JL-]

How about something as...

Grafitto Anima

...


Rigth I'll shut up now... :paper:

[prayingmantis]

About your questions prayingmantis, yes, he can use his natural simple innate powers (don't cast a fireball or anything.. because then it would look wrong). And about when magic started, sometime during the 1000 years disapearance of the machines. Probably 500 years after, it's up to you really. I left the story open enough so that artists can let loose with their creativity:)


Ok thank you, it was important for me because I made a background for my char and he uses his innate power to increase is assassination skills.
And for the magic era It was linked to the creation of my char :)
But reading through the brief this little word "now" make me thought this era was really young.

Thank you.

[Xero]

Ever seen "Hellboy" ? :D

Just add some FX on the gauntlets and it should be cool.

Hey I was think my character a pair of artifact gauntlets. It's not final though. Just so you know.;)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6106/sommoner2lk0.jpg

Oh by the way Fred.

Is it done yet? :D

[FredH]

Should be ready tonight Xero. Very late tonight (early tomorrow);)

[Susurrus]

Should be ready tonight Xero. Very late tonight (early tomorrow);)

cheers Fred, that should stop my repetative GA.org refreshing!.... just for alittle while that is. :thumb:

cheers for your hard work.really looking forward to starting up my thread.

<goes back to ps>

[Shadownami92]

I've got a question, is it a bad idea to make part of my submission partially cute?

[FredH]

Cute? Not such a good idea. Read some of the judge comments about muppet_man's entry last year. She didn't look tough enough for the job.. although it was a fantastic entry.

[Shadownami92]

Is it possible to get a link to the submission? I'm not exactly sure where to find it.

Nevermind, I found it...

[confracto]

yeah, I can find his entry, and I recalled it immediately, but I'm under the impression that what the judges had to say was NEVER posted. which is a real shame. I'd be great if we could read them. I know it'd help all of us create more amazing entries this year.

nm, found it!

http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/2/judges/index.htm

[FredH]

:p you guys are finding answers to your own questions... nice

Confracto.. it's a long read:D

[cookepuss]

seems like im the neurotic one this time :)

[confracto]

yes, it is a bit of a long read, but well worth it. ...it's actually surprising how close muppet man came to placing so much higher. ...and neat to see all the entries that judges liked, but never placed anywhere.

and yes, I'm trying to answer as many of my own questions as I can...I know you're doing enough of it!

[Darkness]

Hi Guys,

A silly question, but an important one to be sure of :

Must the mesh be contiguous ?

Or is it fine to have it be as many pieces as you want ?

Thanks

[miezis]

yes, you can have as many pieces as you want!

[Levus]

Hi all!

My first post here, so sorry it is a question:)

Entry pages on DW home site are modereted?
I fill a link to thread, the name and some profile details, but I don't see my entry on the entrys table. There is some waiting time or something? Or may I do something wrong?
I don't click submit final, it is for final images and close my competition entry, right?

[BiG ToE]

yes, after you join a team, there is a slight wait before your thumbnail shows up. Give it time it will be there. And don't hit the submit button until your done.

[Levus]

Thank you BIG ToE!

[rv_el]

Cute? Not such a good idea. Read some of the judge comments about muppet_man's entry last year. She didn't look tough enough for the job.. although it was a fantastic entry.

Ack. An idea i have is not exactly "cute" but its along those lines. I figured i could convey the power of the artifact though to help show that the job would definitly get done. i'll have to keep this in mind though. Good point.

Judges.. man.

[Imagolith]

Are the entries gonna be judged by how well they fit the story or just the originality. I read what the judges last year had to say about the entries they picked and it only was about the character it self, which to me seems totally useless this year as it should be judged by the best appropriate character for the story, just as it would be when working for real. I have created a full story just to define what my character must be like. As the story this year is all about a hero that will win over everyone, Example #1: As in the lord of the rings, Balrog didn't rule that world even thou it looked so awesome and powerful, the most appropriate character to be the hero was a humble hobbit. I mean, drawing a hobbit as a hero without telling the story it would seem totally crazy and everyone would laugh. It's all about the characters around your character that gives your character, uhm-ye... character. Hehe. So ok, my example maybe wasn't the best, but hopefully you get the point. It's all about the balance, but without background info on the character, it will only be a empty shell and I can't work like that. It would be impossible and stupid (in my opinion) to just pick one design, when there are astronomical amount of combinations and possibilities, and even then it wouldn't be good enough as it's lifeless and has no value what so ever. example #2: 20cm could be tall, if everyone else in the story are 5cm tall. Basically I'm totally lost, so until I get a answer, I'll refine my story just to define my character.

So, will a background story be taken in consideration in the judging phase or am I doomed, hehe?

Sorry for any eventual confusion, it's late, hope you understand my question.
Thank you Fred!

[BiG ToE]

backstories aren't apart of the rules, so they shouldn't make much of a difference when it comes to judging.

[Imagolith]

So... we are supposed to make a character based on a coincidental design and the judging phase will only be a "what looks coolest", basically.

Why is the mission then:

"Your mission, with the help of a powerful magical artifact, is to enter an ancient forgotten world via wormholes, destroy all rival enemy forces sent by other planets, crush the awakening machines, and bring back the secret of technology in order to dominate all opposing forces, their planets and their wretched citizens once and for all!!"

Edit:

"Backstories aren't apart of the rules". No, but they make the character and a character is what we are supposed to create. Maybe I'm taking this too seriously, but I can't do anything just by coincidence. That's all. There are so many cool creatures in games that get killed by the hundred just 20min in the game. Design alone doesn't make a character, it's the role in the story that defines it.

I'm supposed to make a Balrog then (looks cool), I would rather make a hobbit (is more suitable for the mission given)? (See my post above, example #1 if this doesn't make sense)

"so they shouldn't make much of a difference when it comes to judging." Well I'm not meaning it should make a advantage for those with stories, I just mean, will the judges take the background info on the character as seriously as the design as these things together is what makes a character.

Nobody should get offended by this. :)

[BiG ToE]

We where all given the same backstory (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/events/3/rules/index.php), its up to your what you do with it.

You can add on to help you get a better idea of where your character is coming from, but judges wont see it unless they pop into your thread.

[Imagolith]

Yes we where given the same starting point for a story, but creating a character not knowing what the enemies are or their habitats, is rather difficult. A fire character in a surrounding where all the enemies are of wood, would make all the difference. Just a simple example, but this is much more complicated than that. So to create a character that gives the feel that it could smash 9planets just like that is not what I call concept art, it's more of an illustration contest. If you ask me.

Well, a word from Fred would be nice, just to clear this question off my mind.

[BiG ToE]

I think you right. This is all about looks.

[saint]

Let's burn them!

[FrozZT]

I'm supposed to make a Balrog then (looks cool), I would rather make a hobbit (is more suitable for the mission given)? (See my post above, example #1 if this doesn't make sense)


Its all up to the judges i guess, but since this is a comp where the mission is to create a *character* i think a hobbit-like concept should win against a balrog. Sure the balrog is powerful and strong but in my eyes its just a creature, beast, with no character to speak of. A beast with nothing in its eyes is really scary, but lacks character.


So to create a character that gives the feel that it could smash 9planets just like that is not what I call concept art, it's more of an illustration contest. If you ask me.


Sure its concept art, concept art doesnt only revolve around characters, there is environmental concept art, creature concept(i think thats pretty much what you refer to). But this concept art comp is supposed to be focused on characters, though many seem to think its a creaturedesign competition, i hope the judges doesnt think so or else im screwed.. :p I have also, like you focused alot on character. You do have the option of including the story on one or more of your submitted sheets, though i would concider it a distraction from the images. The ideal thing would be to be able to include a description/story separately. Though one could argue that you should be able to tell that story in your images of your character, in your char's eyes, body language, expressions etc..

Just hope the judges doesnt mistake this for a creaturedesign comp..

Good luck everyone! :)

-Niklas

[Imagolith]

FrozZT, nice that you understood... :)

"Sure its concept art," yes, I did go a little far out on that one, but you got the point, it's all that matters. :)

[Josh Singh]

Sooooooo... Any Updates???

[Parnell]

I imagine any day now.
B

[Josh Singh]

Sooooooo... Any Updates???

[Gyorkland]

Anybody knows when the judging process ends??
I read somewhere that it was going to be last week but they haven't finish yet

[FredH]

Judging ends today.... actually, the results will be revealed tonight:)

[Josh Singh]

WHAAAA!!!?????
Dude you better not be joking. Because I'll be glued to my computer! Seriously, should I just go to sleep and look in the morning? or will it be soon enough, that I can stay up?

[blankslatejoe]

:) hahaha, Josh.

[FredH]

I would say around 1-2 a.m my time.... No joke;)

[Josh Singh]

NIce, See youin the morning! :)

[katzeimsack]

wonder who won this war...
The top 3 probably already has an interview email, so let's see :)

congrats to everybody finishing!

[Draxxuss]

yah I stayed up until 2 last night Fred... we live in the same time zone... and apparently it still isn't posted... sigh.. oh well.. maybe today?

[Josh Singh]

Hahahahah Draxxus. When Fred says "1-2 a.m my time" He really means "Fred Time" He's on another level man, not subject to the same time space continuum that we are.

[Trigon]

LOL Draxxuss. You should have known better :) I was hoping to see some eye candy this morning, but I'm sure it will be up soon enough.

[mrrogers]

It is changing as we speak! Updates have been posted. Finalists link requires password still....so close...

[rollin]

Its Up!!______

[nazeil]

congrats to everyone that finished. Looks like the guys over from boston got a good handful in the top 20. Grats :)

[Parnell]

BOSTON RULES BABY!
That being said, I got to say I was very impressed with the judging results this year.
The 3D pieces are totally inspiring to see. A big thank you to Fred and all those that busted their ass behind the scenes to make this come together.
B

[Josh Singh]

Yes. Huge thanks for organizing this contest. Best DomWar yet. Can't wait for DMIV.

[Taehoon]

Great.. job Fred !!

you were the busiest man on earth last few days..

Taehoon

[ThatDon]

Great.. job Fred !!

you were the busiest man on earth last few days..

Taehoon

QFT! Way to go man!

[muppet man]

Totally awesome job, Fred! It's so cool to see it all put together.

[BiG ToE]

Fred, your feet must hurt, from kicking so much butt.

I'm about to add Fred to Wikipedia, coolest guy alive. Digg that.

[foreverendering]

Huge congratulations to everyone.

It was great to see so many of my favorites in the top ten. It's great to see such fantastic entries awarded for their creativity and technical proficiency. Some of you guys have set the bar so high, wow!

[Inpw]

Amazing contest! amazing entries! Amazing winners!!

Fred - your done great work. Big thanks for you!!

[MM]

Awesome work Fred. This looks so huge I wonder how big it can get next year.

congrats too all the winners. all the top 20 entries look great.

[Goldo_O]

Congratulations everyone for the fricking amazing work done this year! That was such a pleasure to fight beside all of you guys :)
And Fred, thanks a lot for your commitment to this competition, long live to Dominance War!!!

[MM]

is there a way to see the rest of the top 50 and were they ranked ?

[kipiripi]

Impressive Works,congratulations everyone. Awesome job, Fred.

[FredH]

Thanks guys. Just a few things to finish up, and then it will be totally done:) I am really glad you enjoyed the event.

MM, the top 50 places were not ranked, but you can find who they are here: http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/3/index_3.php

[DreameR]

congratulations 2 everyone!
an amazing amount of great stuff came out of GA! And from around the world. its exciting to see.
(Im going to try my hardest to finish this post without mentioning how boring i find the 1st prize winner...)

[stormrunner]

Fred, your feet must hurt, from kicking so much butt.

I'm about to add Fred to Wikipedia, coolest guy alive. Digg that.

i second and third the motion:D

and congrats to everyone:thumb: this year produced some amazing work.

[Cunipshun]

Now what Comp u got next?.....im hungry for 1

[rv_el]

Congratulations everybody. Fred did a kick ass job on the presentation and format. Great Job!

I'm going nutts looking at all the 2d entries i never saw before!

[ZIVIXcn]

I`m confusing in somthing..all right, forget it.
congrats all.

[Trigon]

Wow, nice. I was gone most of the day today so I'm just now seeing this. Looks great :) and congrats

I agree lots of cool 2d stuff I am seeing for the first time.

[iworkat]

the bar is sooo high... Dominance War turned out some of the most awe inspiring work... It's great to see it all in one place, and congrats to the winners!!!

[Okmer]

yehhh, congratz on all the huge entries!
Only thing >i regret is that the rest just ends up is some kinda alphabetic classed list without feedback.
But nice war anyway and just a amazing experience!
cheers

[FredH]

okmer, you bring up an interesting point. Maybe next year, I will add a third panel of judges. These won't be judges really, instead, they will be pro artists who volunteer to leave a few notes on as many entries as possible. So, there could be 5 pages next year, top5, top6-20, top50&judges, Mass Feedback, and Credits & Thanks

Cunipshun - Now that the war is over, the next Main GameArtisans comp will happen in a week or two:) I have been saving our best idea for this one....

[Parnell]

Now that the war is over, the next Main GameArtisans comp will happen in a week or two:) I have been saving our best idea for this one....

Excellent!!
:)
B

[Raventhebird]

谢谢你，

u know what that mean

[BiG ToE]

I don't have a clue.

[FredH]

It means: Thank you:)

[BiG ToE]

well, 谢谢你，

[-IdanI-]

Cunipshun - Now that the war is over, the next Main GameArtisans comp will happen in a week or two:) I have been saving our best idea for this one....

Exellent cant wait, especially now that school is almost over:D
Also great work on bringing another Great dominance war comp to end and congratz to all the winners and people who manged to finish.

[damagecontrol]

congrats to all the winners. This year must have been really hard for the judges with some many quality entries!

[eboy]

Congrats to everyone. Also well done rv_el for the top five position! Not forgetting the rest of the GA's who got top 50. Well done!

Finally good job FredH for your hardwork on this comp. Looking forward to hearing about this next big GA one.


EDIT: Maybe it's just me not in the know but what is this UnearthlyChallenge.com? Has it been mentioned before?

[typhus22]

shoot, congrats to the winners, there was alot of intense entries and thanks Fred for doing these contests! ^_^

[DTorelli]

Congrats to all the finalists, amazing job!
I was really glad to be part of the contest, can't wait for the next.

Fredh, I was wondering how can I purchase the GA's poster?
I'm looking forward to see how it looks like.

Thanx

[FredH]

DTorelli - I'll make an announcement and send a newsletter when the posters are ready:)

eboy - now you know;)

[-IdanI-]

cant wait untill the next GA challenge begins :cool:

[DTorelli]

Thanx Fredh!
Looking forward to it.