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GOGO
02-17-2008, 06:57 AM
-----17/2/45678, 01:00:00 PM, Gogo begins to brief Ga's finest first wave high in the orbit of planet GameArtisan.org...

Ok ladies, this is an important time...a lucky break before the carnage, time that should be used making wise reference choices and key study time. Ive heard allot of talk about how we should be posting our W.I.P's now...but you may aswell post your R.I.P's...if you rush in and fall...aint nobody picking you up:mad:

Im going to try to break this down alongside the rules so the links are clear. This is an open thread so use it to share your own reference ideas, it can only help the forum as a whole.

The regulations in general are vague enough to include anything, anything but robots, cyborgs, steam engines, or anything with electronics.

Aside from this you can create any sort of wonderful exciting character with a familiar or unique race its completely up to you. A few story points you should keep in mind however

1. The universe hasnt seen a working piece of technology for 1000 years!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo (fallout 3)
2. The planets have been cut off from one another for 1000 years! consider this point carefully. In the real world earth hasnt contacted any other habitated planets but when we do the aliens will probbably think we are well strange:lol:.
3. Bizarre creatures have been emerging from wormholes; creatures made entirely of metal!a possible antagonistic feature for any entry piece
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_9SaJUJ1o0&NR=1 (temors)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIW2-MqiodQ (Animatrix..couldnt find english v sry :P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fsCGSoo2k4 (borg)

4. Lastly and most important key story line Your mission, with the help of a powerful magical artifact, is to enter an ancient forgotten world via wormholes, destroy all rival enemy forces sent by other planets, crush the awakening machines, and bring back the secret of technology in order to dominate all opposing forces, their planets and their wretched citizens once and for all!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHik9TiJkA (terminator wars)

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Classes

These will probably be the most important factor in your design, as it seems like a key point for judging and therefore points. Remember no combinations!:mad:

Invoker This character type harvests powerful magic to destroy and/or manipulate his surroundings or enemies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fEyJJdr-hs&feature=related (tetsuo, Akira VIOLENCE CAUTION)

Clericon This character type uses magic to heal, strengthen, weaken, banish or bind foes or allies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4EjVg7YYOQ&feature=related (Wow Bc)

Stalker This character type cannot manipulate magic like an invoker, but rather, has mastered the art of magic to aid his/her stealth, information gathering, and assassination skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzzQv3SLIA (Naruto)

Warlord This character type is not proficient in manipulating magic, rather, he/she has mastered the art of hand-to-hand combat, weapon(s) fighting and high armored defense. Warlord's may use magical weapons and armor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKMFcZ4HzgY (Afro Samurai VIOLENCE CAUTION)

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Artifact Weapon
The 2nd key feature of any warrior, this is also crucial for points. There seems to be allot of confusion about what artifacts actually are, luckily they can pretty much be anything. But regardless of your choice weapon make sure...

1. has an elemental energy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHaWjpvse1g (FF8)

2. that its aged (this is a post apocolyptic universe)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact

Keep our dominance war history in mind when choosing your artifact from the barracks, but again nothing mechanical.

Powerful artifact weapons are needed to defeat all opposing rival forces and to destroy the awakening machines. Your character must wield a single artifact or a pair of similar artifacts (two scimitars, two daggers etc). Artifacts must possess one of these following magical energy types (no combinations, example, no Fire/lava + Vegetation):
Fire/lava
Water/Ice
Air/Lightning
Earth/Rock
Vegetation
Darkness/void
Light/Holy
Summoning

Special notes: If you choose to give your character two similar artifacts, you can only have one magical power type. Example, you cannot have one ice dagger and one fire dagger. They must both use fire or both use ice.

Other Rules

No vehicles allowed.
Your character cannot possess digital technology. A simple pistol is allowed, but a laser gun with circuitry is not allowed.
Organic living pets and steeds are allowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIW2-MqiodQ (:lol: )

Please share anything that has taken your fancy in your own personal research.

FredH
02-17-2008, 11:01 AM
Hey, this is great refs!!;) But careful with the planets being cut off from each other. They have been cut off from each other through space flight, but they are still able to travel to each planet via wormholes, hence the reason 9 planets have been at war with each other for a long time.

I'd also like to mention, yes, the key element in this comp will be how powerful you make your character look. He should possess a ridiculously powerful artifact and he should look like he can kill anything in his path, as well as defend against all forms of attacks.

Good Luck to all:)

GOGO
02-17-2008, 11:18 AM
Yea I found this slightly confusing, I naturally assumed by wormhole they meant the kind that happen it outer space, not really on the planets surface...but w0tever haa

Layabout
02-17-2008, 11:48 AM
Am I correct in assuming the wormholes are somewhat similar to the stargate in that ever so popular scifi show?

I like the idea of the artifact being ridiculously powerful. I'll have to get working.

GOGO
02-17-2008, 11:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1BiL8GPqc (stargate)

Kir Nuyts
02-17-2008, 12:13 PM
Just to be sure...It al sounds verry 'human' > all humanlike classes and so...
Can we also create more creature/alien like characters? Like A Giant Crocodile man with one eye and 800 teeths...-> warlord style...

Sorry I just want to make sure...

GOGO
02-17-2008, 12:30 PM
aslong as it isnt a mecha giant crocodile I assume that would be ok.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XURwBbwUymE

Wahlgren
02-17-2008, 12:30 PM
Just to be sure...It al sounds verry 'human' > all humanlike classes and so...
Can we also create more creature/alien like characters? Like A Giant Crocodile man with one eye and 800 teeths...-> warlord style...

Sorry I just want to make sure...

The rules say.


Race:
You can create any organic, demonic or undead race: Alien, vampire, angel, succubus, skeleton, mutant, elf, human, fish, pixy, treant, giant... Anything! Only exception: No robots, cyborgs, steam engines, or anything with electronics.

ShadyD
02-17-2008, 01:08 PM
flaw in the plot though.. a little flaw.
Can't have electronics, so what does that make electric artifacts?

Yung
02-17-2008, 01:12 PM
ShadyD: Somethings you just have to let go...feel my friend, feel it and just let loose the grasp of reality.

Here's some art from the books by DND. There's some cool ideas and illustration in some of them, bound to find something inspiring but it's rather small hahaha.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4arch/ag

FredH
02-17-2008, 01:19 PM
ShadyD - :lol:

Yeah, the setting is a little like stargate. Loved that show, movie and spinoff!

confracto
02-17-2008, 01:40 PM
Fred, what do you mean 'Loved'? We're still making it! ...Atlantis at least.

...of course, making stargate takes up the vast majoirty of my time, which means I have less for this competiton :P

zeke3d
02-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Fred, can characters share the item, if its doubled, like if you have 2 elemental daggers and each one carry one? can they be different classes?

could you make 4 characters of each a different class, and 2 of them share the doubled enchanted daggers, one a piece?

Im asking these questions so they can be clarified, as they are somewhat easy to say yest or no to. unlike the shader debate. which will most likely never be completely pinned down.

what about weapon multi use or augmenting, like using a dagger as a ray bolt thrower, or when attached to a shield enchants it?

ShadyD
02-17-2008, 02:37 PM
if i'm not mistaken, the brief says the element gets infused.

When someone says infuse I immediately think of a huge syringe and a quick painfull injection like in bioshock.

But I think you can just about make your character as elemental as you want.

I think you can't have 2 characters, meerly pets or steeds.
The focus must be on your main character I presume.
anywho, that's what my spider senses are telling me so :/

GOGO
02-17-2008, 03:10 PM
My aim wasnt to create a thread for rule discussion, can we please get back on topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ah65tsNQbqA (real old tv anime)

BigJohn
02-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Sons of the Storm (sonsofthestorm.com)

these guys have always been a great source of inspiration to me.


Clericon This character type uses magic to heal, strengthen, weaken, banish or bind foes or allies.

As for my guy, this is the path I'm going down at the moment. I'm having some problems with the artifact and making the char look menacing enough. I guess it's by the nature of what a healer type character is, plus I'm making mine female. Anyone has any ideas?

Shadownami92
02-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Ive made my character look menacing and so far he is down the path of invoker.

I'm also having a problem with making an artifact that will fit well.

GOGO
02-18-2008, 04:54 AM
I guess it would be natural to assume that everyone should attempt to create a badguy but no war is ever purely filled with antagonists. And with this fantasy genre the judges might be looking for more natural characters. The clericon class for example basically reads as a nurse with status effect abilities.

When it comes to relic creation try filling a sheet of a4 with thumbnails of different silhouette's and flesh out the profiles you like the most, if you think "right I wanna do a staff" straight off without thinking about how both elements interact visual then it may seem like your going nowhere fast. Consider mass and weight before finer details.

Personally I think im gonna go for an assasin character to please my unheealthy obsession with ninjas, ill post up some of my inspirations a little later.

Heres a really good game art resources, lots of printed production art and the odd weapon.
http://www.creativeuncut.com/index.html
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-04/ff12rw-sword.html

TheMagnetic
02-18-2008, 05:01 AM
Nice man. this is well thought out and composed BUT

!?!?DUDE WHERES YOUR MAD MAX REFERENCE?!?!
i mean..its mad max..!!..

TheMagnetic
02-18-2008, 05:02 AM
Nice man. this is well thought out and composed BUT

:ack: !?!?DUDE WHERES YOUR MAD MAX REFERENCE?!?!
i mean..its mad max..!!..:D

GOGO
02-18-2008, 05:41 AM
Stalker This character type cannot manipulate magic like an invoker, but rather, has mastered the art of magic to aid his/her stealth, information gathering, and assassination skills.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/4256.html (Tenchu, VIOLENCE)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Zc2u5-h540 (TMNT)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x-_K05YaCEg&feature=related (Ninja Scroll VIOLENCE)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zuJ1fi-YLRk&feature=related

GOGO
02-18-2008, 05:44 AM
Mag im not a mind reader post your own damn links

Beartastic
02-18-2008, 06:06 AM
:ack: !?!?DUDE WHERES YOUR MAD MAX REFERENCE?!?!
http://www.duncans.tv/images/mad-max-koalas.jpg

BigJohn
02-18-2008, 03:43 PM
I guess it would be natural to assume that everyone should attempt to create a badguy but no war is ever purely filled with antagonists. And with this fantasy genre the judges might be looking for more natural characters. The clericon class for example basically reads as a nurse with status effect abilities.

When it comes to relic creation try filling a sheet of a4 with thumbnails of different silhouette's and flesh out the profiles you like the most, if you think "right I wanna do a staff" straight off without thinking about how both elements interact visual then it may seem like your going nowhere fast. Consider mass and weight before finer details.

lol I was totally drawing staves here too. I really gotta snap out of those traditional items. I'm thinking maybe two giant floating ancient-looking books now. Gonna give it a shot.

Personally I think im gonna go for an assasin character to please my unheealthy obsession with ninjas, ill post up some of my inspirations a little later.

Heres a really good game art resources, lots of printed production art and the odd weapon.
http://www.creativeuncut.com/index.html
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-04/ff12rw-sword.html

lol man, I did a site-rip of that site and got way more than I bargained for. About a thousand pics from all sorts of different games. I thought it was just FF, but there's assassin's creed, castlevania, devil may cry etc.

so... thanks for that :)

GOGO
02-18-2008, 04:43 PM
Glad it was helpful, im sure everyone else is holding out with their ideas:paper:

I just watched a bbc documentary about lizards and was tottally inspired by this insane looking creature

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch_lizard

Cant really find a picture that does it justice really. So at the moment while I brain storm away I have Ninja's and a moloch lizard...it seems pretty win so far :thumb:

tkaza
02-18-2008, 09:26 PM
So lets get a generalised idea of the theme,
stargate + lord of the rings + some ff
That sound about right?

god_gilaz
02-19-2008, 03:21 AM
so when we are going to start ?????

GOGO
02-19-2008, 05:07 AM
This week sometime I imagine God, seems the website is having some trouble.

Tk: Im not sure how I would pin down the theme as its a pretty bizzar brief considering all the different elements.

The Universe once existed as a tech war paradise. (DM2)
http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/en/wallpapers/index.htm (DM2 wallpaper)

An ultimate weapon destroyed all the machines and space travel was ruined (Post apocalyptic)

1000 years later war still rages through wormholes (stargate)

planet inhabitants have resorted to using ancient magical relics to battle (fantasy characters LOTR,FF etc)

Evil machines now threaten everything (Borg, Terminator)

If anyone is stuck for ideas just pick whatever class sounds coolest for you and just start revers engineering it with youtube and google :P

Shadownami92
02-19-2008, 11:02 AM
This week sometime I imagine God, seems the website is having some trouble.

Tk: Im not sure how I would pin down the theme as its a pretty bizzar brief considering all the different elements.

The Universe once existed as a tech war paradise. (DM2)
http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/en/wallpapers/index.htm (DM2 wallpaper)

An ultimate weapon destroyed all the machines and space travel was ruined (Post apocalyptic)

1000 years later war still rages through wormholes (stargate)

planet inhabitants have resorted to using ancient magical relics to battle (fantasy characters LOTR,FF etc)

Evil machines now threaten everything (Borg, Terminator)

If anyone is stuck for ideas just pick whatever class sounds coolest for you and just start revers engineering it with youtube and google :P

remind me of the game called Evolution Worlds, except the acient relics are the last remaining high technology, and the ending ruins it...

Ender
02-19-2008, 11:32 AM
I guess it would be natural to assume that everyone should attempt to create a badguy but no war is ever purely filled with antagonists. And with this fantasy genre the judges might be looking for more natural characters. The clericon class for example basically reads as a nurse with status effect abilities.


I Agree GOGO, my first concept wasnt to create some evil powerful guy but a stoic warrior

GOGO
02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
An early dreamcast game, gadget users who acted as treasure who discovered and sold ancient relics. I never got to play it..bought legacy of kain: soul reaver instead,

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QM_Y1T8BlxU (intro)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BRglejVCs (soul reaver intro)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vPqNoLMarZ0 (Onimusha3 intro)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L7LB-4oVcM8&feature=related (Oni: Dawn of Dreams Intro)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pW8GbBSXaUU&feature=related (Front Mission 4 Intro)

dyezza
02-19-2008, 12:41 PM
here are some inspirational artworks and awesome illustrations

http://http://www.fengzhudesign.com/
http://www.imaginaryfs.com/gallery.html
http://www.little-big-studio.com/G3K/index.php
http://www.jasonchanart.com/gallery.htm
http://www.sangjunart.com/home.html
http://fiduciose.cgsociety.org/gallery/285864/
http://www.chukw.com/
http://www.martiniere.com/gallery.htm
http://www.goodbrush.com/

:thumb:

cookepuss
02-19-2008, 01:53 PM
These are some of the references I'm using right now, based on my character/companion combo. Doing the whole buffet thing right now and taking it all in.

The core character ("Cassie, The Last Rot Lord") is a teenager - explained on my "Dom War Journal" blog. I purposely picked a more slender body type since I would be layering some stone armor on her. I wanted to keep her fairly feminine looking while still noticeably protected. I chose Michelle Trachtenberg as my point of reference. Even though she's 22, she's got that teen look that fits my idea.

Since she's meant to be an Invoker/Earth character, her companion will be a telekinetically/elementally Earth/garbage beast. She rides it and uses it as a magically animated brute force weapon of sorts. I'm using lowlands gorillas as my reference point for anatomy, as well as some comic characters like Thing, Rockslide, and Sandman. I also looked at some various types of dirt, stone, and even the Moai statues from Easter Island.

Just a lot of Googling.

Anyway.... Maybe somebody could also get some ideas from the dirt, rock, and body stuff here.

As you can see, I like to work with swatches. I'll be sampling some more stuff with my digital camera over the weekend.

I'll post more stuff, as it comes in, on my War Journal down below.
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cookepuss
02-19-2008, 01:59 PM
I've got the higher res images on my PC. Don't want to kill my personal web site's bandwidth though, at least not for now.

GOGO
02-19-2008, 03:42 PM
Looks like your right on track cookie, look forward to your concepts.