Mini Challenge #14 - Mini Judges

[blankslatejoe]

Quick Announcement:
This will be my last 3d minicomp for you guys. ThatDon, our newest mod and mini-comp fiend, will be taking over for me starting next comp. Ill be helping him learn the ropes throughout this comp, so be sure to give him a hard time! :)

As for me, I'll still be around to give crits and encouragement, and as for more 'official' duties, I'll be moving on to the 2d minicomps, (once that backend system has been completed). So it's not like I'm going anywhere :)
That said, on to the minicomp!


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http://30lives.com/gaorg/minicomp14a.jpg

Theme: MINI JUDGES

A couple years ago a game called Final Fantasy Twelve was released for the PS2. I never played it. I don't even know if it was any good, as far as the FF games go (I'm partial to VI, myself), but I do know that there were these kick butt 'judge' characters in the game. I don't know what their role was or what purpose they served other than to be absolutely cool armored guys.

Look how cool they are!

http://30lives.com/gaorg/minicomp14c.jpg


The objective for this minicomp: Build a CHIBI JUDGE! You can either reconstruct one of the judges from FF12, or make an armored judge of your own up out of your head, but do your best to MINI/CHIBI-fy him/her. Basically, this is a make-a-kickbutt-knight contest


THE SPECS

-700 Tris
-1x512x512 Diffuse mapsize. You can use Alpha and Glow support maps, but NO NORMAL MAPS OR SPEC MAPS.

Yes, that says no normal or spec. This is putting the MINI back in MINI CHALLENGE.

Otherwise, anything goes! These minicomps are meant to be fun, quick, goofy, and just quick ways to spend an afternoon or two.

Please post all work-in-progress shots and questions in this thread!

THE SUBMISSION:

-Your final submission should be in the form of a SINGLE image. This image should include a wireframe, flat textures, a final render, and anything else you wish to show us! (high res sculpts, close ups, etc.) Please label the high res models, if you decide to show it.

-When you have completed your submission, use the following link to submit it:

http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/mini/character.html

Remember to hit the upload button!




THE DEADLINE: So, the soft deadline last minicomp worked really well, so let's stick with that for another go. See the next post for information about soft deadlines.

Voting will begin Sunday, July 6th 2008, at midnight!

GOODLUCK!

http://30lives.com/gaorg/minicomp14b.jpg

[blankslatejoe]

FAQ:
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Here's some questions that might come up:

MINI JUDGES FAQ:
So, Make the most badass chibi knight I can using 700tris and a 512 diffuse/alpha/illumination. Connection to FF is encouraged but not required. Do I have it right?

Yes, but "Connection to FF is encouraged but not required " means that you dont HAVE to use those FF12 concepts, it doesn't mean you could chibi-fy a knight from any other game. You could make a knight of your own up though, and try and incorporate all sorts of ideas into that, but in the end, above all, it should be a badass knight. The primary goal here is to create a knight that might fit along side those guys in the brief.





MINICOMPS FAQ:

What is a 'Soft Deadline'? A soft deadline means that there's no fixed deadline. I will enable community voting at the 'Soft Deadline' time, but I will not close the contest to submissions. That means if you're running late with you're entry, you can still submit, but you might not get as many votes (or...well...any, if ts TOO late). It's at your advantage to submit your entry as close to the 'Soft Deadline' as possible.


Why can't I submit? I'm getting an error!
Try these two things:
-Log out and log back in with the 'remember me' function toggled on.
-Double check to make sure you hit the 'upload' button before you hit submit! That accounts for most errors.

Can I use advanced Lighting/Global Illumination/Final Gather/Etc.
Sorry, but no. Try and keep your lighting to only using standard lights. This helps voters judge you based off the quality of the modeling and texturing, and not the lighting engine. It's also closer to what you might find in-game. If a minicomp allows advanced lighting, that will be written in the brief.


-If you still have trouble, send me a PM. I'm here to help.

[Cunipshun]

Im basing mine of these "judges"
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o234/erjmech03/american-idol-judges.jpg lol jk jk

but 700 Tris and no normals :cry: :cry:


ugh this'll be a challenge for me

[blankslatejoe]

cunipshun, i kinda intended this to be a make-a-badass-knight comp more than a 'make your favorite judge' comp.

[Cunipshun]

i am

i was just kidding

[BigJohn]

So let me see if I get this right, just so there's no confusion later on:

Make the most badass chibi knight I can using 700tris and a 512 diffuse/alpha/illumination. Connection to FF is encouraged but not required.

Do I have it right?

[Aftermath]

From FFXI

http://www.crimsonvelvet.com/obsess/ffxi/betaGM2.jpg

Game Masters Are Knights/Judges Im sure this armor is extremly lowpoly too.

[blankslatejoe]

big john: you summed it up perfectly.

[McHuge]

This sounds like fun sir. I figure if I can squeeze it in to my little schedule of playing with my son and looking for a job, I might be able to play around with this comp. Getting it a bit late I suppose though. Ah well, will see what I can do. Fun concept for a soft contest though, kudos me man, kudos.

[McHuge]

Yikes...got to change my avatar...I look...smoldering.:D

[EricElwell]

mmmm.. looks like a ton of fun! if only I had time...

[Revliss]

ok i think i am in ...

[Beartastic]

I've always loved these guys and I haven't even played FFXII either. Awesome comp, Joe! Sad to hear you're moving on but Don will do you proud :)

[Inpw]

Some questions:
1. Only humanoids? How about tentacles, wings, double head etc?
2. Only fantasy? How about heavy armored hi-tech guy (Bigun for example :) )

[butt_sahib]

joe:
:(
Not cgchat all over again :(
though i do understand the situation could not have been avoided :) Thanks for all the work ya did for the mini comps! :D

That judge second from the left reminds me of Grendalh(?) from Xenogears 1.

[Vailias]

Inpw: I think that if you feel like making a Cthulu-Hydra, thats fine, so long as it has armor or something to make it a Cthulu-Hydra who's profession is Knighthood. Just remember tentacles are expensive for a 700 tri budget.

Also given that FF is the inspiration here, you could go pretty techy, just throw in a blade on whatever gun you use and its perfect for the FF universe.
Seriously, they've had Mecha, aircraft, dragons, beam weapons, motorcycles, trains, gun arms, oversized swords, and a kid with a tail. So long as its slightly over the top and looks cool, you can get away with it in some FF game. Seriously, look at Kefka. The guy is a general who dresses like a clown, and is one of the most beloved villains in the whole ff universe.

[Hito]

ouch, tough specs. 700 polies., it'll be just like work!

[funkdelic]

holy shi**

those characters are the coolest ever! ff12 game is really amazing just because of the judges...

gonna give that a try!

[C Wong]

How you doing funkdelic? Just saying hello mate.

Anyway. Are we allow to use AO maps BSJoe? Sorry just read the brief. Thats a yes isn't it...

[butt_sahib]

You can always bake an AO and overlay that in your diffuse :)

[-JL-]

Ohhh... I gotta try this one! :D

[Supernova87]

Oh man. This looks like a pretty fun challenge. Gonna try to do one if I get the time.

[blankslatejoe]

Mchuge!! Good to see you dude. :)


IPNW - well, I suppose you could go as odd-shapes as you want, but ARMOR IT UP and make it CHIBI. If you look at the examples, there's no actual 'skin' showing. I think that's one of the key things to making badass knights, is to cover all the skin. As for Chibi...well, there's plenty of google refs for that :)

For your tech question; bigun is awesome and all, but there's a big difference between mech/robot/cyborg and knight. If you can work tech stuff in and really still have it feel like a chibi judge/knight, then awesome--that's the primary goal. But otherwise, I'd keep the tech stuff to a minimal for this contest.

butt_sahib, don't worry, I'll still be around. I'm going to work on getting the 2d contests back up and interesting. They really weren't getting enough attention before.

cwong - ao is allowed if you overlay it into the diffuse map :)

[Kalango]

nice! loved the low specs....we need more old school anyways...If i have the time i'll do this. :p

[Matias]

hey guys, just jumped in, decided to remake one of the existing knights, the bucket head doo, because he's simple! :P
http://members.optusnet.com.au/matias.jakku/Linking%20Files/Matias%20CHIBI%20Judge.jpg
and a viewport grab to sorta show the construction
http://members.optusnet.com.au/matias.jakku/Linking%20Files/Matias%20CHIBI%20Judge%2002.jpg
I was thinking of using just planes for his tall collars, crown and cape, but can u make them so that you see both sides the same? or do you have to extrude or shell? Just the models around 420 polys now, should cover me either way I guess but still curious.

Also, do you think the head is large enough for chibi or should I blow that out a bit more?

[funkdelic]

Hey matias nice one mte!
but you better take care, you model is about 900 tris now..

take a look, the rules only allow 700 tris..

[Matias]

Dang! so you add those together!! ouch, time to start cutting! such a noob! >_<

[Revliss]

rawr !!!! armor chibi girl !!

[Lfs]

700 tris and no normals this one is tough ;)

[Eclipse]

Really cool challenge! I hope I can find time to think up something cool and work on it :D.

[blankslatejoe]

matias, you can change the statistics in max to display triangle instead of polies...polies are kind of ambiguous, they can be 3 sides, 4 sides, even more, so it throws the count a bit.

right click on the 'viewport name' (right, left, perspective, etc) and theres a config option there for it.

[RazzMattazz]

Nice i think ill give this one a go.
The brief is very similar to the one Fuxer worked to with his amazing Altair model, worth checking out if you havent seen it yet http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1674&highlight=creed

[Deviant-Ice]

Yeah that model is sick :P is he the guy who did the low poly TF2 chars too ?

and a quick question, chibi can be a kid too right, doesnt have to be Mr Big head does it :(

[Yung]

Seems like a fun challenge! I am doing that wing judge fellow. No idea who he is but he look cool! Exactly 700 tris and unwrapped, ready to texture soon!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Velsthinez/mejudgeprogress01.jpg

[illadam]

Perfect time for a new mini comp. I have a break from school now so I'll def be in this!

Yung - that is looking awesome. No crits. Lets see that texture!

[BiG ToE]

Admin Joe, you need to hurry up and get the 2d mini comps back on track. Use your powers to make it happen.

[dmightyone]

ok a mini challenge with knights? i'm in!

[nazeil]

Knocked this out in between bites of pasta on my lunch break. Nothing terribly original, but its something to get the gears moving. :)

[Tek-Man]

hi im new to 3D modelling and the forum (kinda, been lurking a while XD) i might just enter this comp if i get the time:doh: seems sipmle enough althought the texturing could give me a bit of trouble:think: *fails at unwrapping* >.<

[Supernova87]

Yeah that model is sick :P is he the guy who did the low poly TF2 chars too ?

and a quick question, chibi can be a kid too right, doesnt have to be Mr Big head does it :(

Not sure he did those but he's made a "Nero" from DMC4 low poly model, cloud model and an "old snake" model too. Really like his "altair" model too.

Pretty sure chibi can be a child too!

[Sectaurs]

I'm in

http://www.iheartwells.com/Gallery/Personal/GA%20Mini%2014/WIP%2002.jpg

[Tek-Man]

I'm in

http://www.iheartwells.com/Gallery/Personal/GA%20Mini%2014/WIP%2002.jpg

we have a winner :thumb:

[blankslatejoe]

Yeah that model is sick :P is he the guy who did the low poly TF2 chars too ?

and a quick question, chibi can be a kid too right, doesnt have to be Mr Big head does it :(


it could be a child, the end result will probably be similar I imagine..

Bigtoe -- I wish! Fred has his programmer tinkering with some fancy new system for mini-comps..so we're waiting on them for now :)

[Parnell]

Man I was all psyched to enter this comp until I remembered it was a mini-comp...too little time for me:(
Any chance we can make a major comp for this? and make the art super hardcore next gen!?
W00t!
B

[necrostrife]

K so It doesn't have to be ff right, so I picked the Skull Knight from berserk to chibi

[ThatDon]

The idea behind this comp is to either make or remake a FFXII inspired "Judge" Knight in chibi fashion. So remaking another character from a different game/franchise/universe would be going against the theme of this comp.

With that said the ultimate call is up to Joe.

[YdoUwant2know]

The goal of the comp is to make a bad ass Chibi knight. Per the FAQ I think Skull Knight may work.

FAQ:
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Here's some questions that might come up:

MINI JUDGES FAQ:
So, Make the most badass chibi knight I can using 700tris and a 512 diffuse/alpha/illumination. Connection to FF is encouraged but not required. Do I have it right?

Yes.

[blankslatejoe]

"Connection to FF is encouraged but not required " means that you dont HAVE to use those FF12 concepts, it doesn't mean you could chibi-fy a knight from any other game. You could make a knight of your own up though, and try and incorporate all sorts of ideas into that, but in the end, above all, it should be a badass knight.

If you think about it, that's what the unifying theme with the judges is, they have lavish, late middle-ages/renaissance style armor and have a slight fantasy twist to them. Other than that, there's not much to actually say it's from the FF12 world. 'Badass knight' is the main theme. Do your best to make a knight that looks like it could fit alongside them.

SO, I'm gonna side with Thatdon on this one, sorry necro! It was a good thing to bring up, I'll update the Faq now

[Sectaurs]

haha. okay, then mine is wildly inappropriate.
i'll make him anyways, though, while i think up something more fitting

[C Wong]

Thanks butt_sahib and BSJoe. Thats a sweet tip. Do you think it would be worth making a high one? Might be overkill though. It's nice to have a nice diggestable challenge. I'm in.

[blankslatejoe]

a high poly one? Depends how fast you are--The only thing that would be useful for would be for baking out an AO to slap over the diffuse. I know a few people who are very very fast at high poly, and then retopo a low poly from that, but I myself am quicker at just painting the details like that in from scratch, and only building a low poly.

[Matias]

Thanks Blankslatejoe, I changed that over to show the tris, just another quick question to clear up do I still add the vert count to that, atm I got 594 tris and 361 verts, now does that mean I still got like a hundred tris in hand or does it actually mean I'm still way over?
http://members.optusnet.com.au/matias.jakku/Linking%20Files/Matias%20CHIBI%20Judge%2003.jpg
I've been cuttin down on alot of fluff detail and got him to were I think the texture could be good but if I had the budget for a little more detail in the model I'd like to use it.
Sorry guys for all the questions!

[Raptor5399]

Well both the knights I wanted are being made by other people so I guess that puts me in the make something up category :paper:

[blankslatejoe]

raptor, dont let that stop you -- even if it's the same concept, people will certainly have different approaches toward making them chibi, or just creating them in 3d. It can be really neat to see different people's takes on the same concept.

Matias - nope, vert counts don't matter toward the budget. Just tris and the texture size.

[Raptor5399]

I like Zargabaath as well and he isnt taken :D

Its between him and the guy at the very bottom of your post about the contest but I don't know his name.

Your right, they would be different enough.

[YdoUwant2know]

With Final Fantasy as the topic, I cannot skip this one. Still working on the details but thought I would share what I had in mind. It just not a Final Fantasy game without these little guys. Just a very quick and ugly 2d that I am using to figure out armor. Should be fun.

[Matias]

Thanks, blankslatejoe! much appreciated I was worried for a second!
Yung awesome model man great likeness!!
Ydouwant3know, go the armoured mog'ness! Pity the budget doesnt allow for a chocobo steed! ;P

[YdoUwant2know]

Yeah i don't think i will have the tri for the mount :( Still I might make it for fun anyway. Call it part of my base or something :think:

[Aftermath]

This is my first event that i actually have time to finish thanks to summer break. Heres what i have so far, i hope it is chibi enough.

First Pass:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/minijudge.jpg

[waahh]

I'll give this a try. The basic idea is a chibi character wearing the breastplate of a normal character.

[HntrLuc]

Ahhh fun! I'm gonna use one of the originals, the handle bar head one i think :)

EDIT: Quick concept ripping off ff3s style :)
bad picture quality...

http://huntermortenson.com/mini/2d.jpg

[K_Sheriff]

With your painting skills, that is going to look sweet

[fraglimit]

I decided to enter the contest... Here's my work so far - 374 tris

[fraglimit]

Btw, his name is "Judge Dreg" :)

[dmightyone]

just a quick concept to get something started:

[Vailias]

working working..... perhaps finish this one ya?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/vailias/Vailias_judge_6-20.jpg

[fraglimit]

Done with the geometry (480 tris) - moving on to the texture

[Supernova87]

Fraglimit you're speeding along!

[3ex]

Oo i see some nice things popping up.

Here is my little idea. Not very knight like at the mo though. Got a little carried away with the pants. might need to beef it up the armour side of things.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5803/minicomp14copysg2.jpg

[butt_sahib]

Greatjobfraglimit!:D

Hntr;looksgreat!

[nazeil]

nice concept HntrLuc.

this comp should be a good time, lots of cool entries already

[Aftermath]

quick question about your character base, is that included in the set tri amount or may i put some detail into the base? As long as i can show its a seperate object?

[elementrix]

700 tris exactly:

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn288/el-ementrix/untitled-22.jpg

uvmapped and ready for texturing

[dmightyone]

done with the base mesh and i'm probably gonna sculpt it since i'm not great at texturing and the AO gives me a good start.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/962/knightmc14bi6.gif
By dmightyone (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/dmightyone) at 2008-06-21

[blankslatejoe]

quick question about your character base, is that included in the set tri amount or may i put some detail into the base? As long as i can show its a seperate object?

you can do whatever you want for the base, but it should only be a stand/pedestal-that means no tricks to make your character feel more detailed than it is by dropping the knight's weapons or a mount into the base. You could certainly make it a mini environment if you wanted though.

[borris]

Well this looks awesome. I never really played any of the FF games but the Knights do looks pretty sweet so Im definetly in on this one. Heres my concept so far. Let me know if its not chibi enough. Thanks.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/milween/ConceptLayout.gif

[Yung]

Texture work done now, ready for critique in case I missed anything. That's all for this weekend, I got to finish off my other tasks.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Velsthinez/mejudgeprogress02.jpg

[dmightyone]

that is some serious texture work yung! amazing job, no critics! congrats!

[damagecontrol]

good grief, Yung! That's amazing!

Very close to the original.

[Fethry]

Hi everyone.

I registered at last and decided to join this minicomp for practice. Very cool theme this time and I chose to do Judge Ghis. Gotta love those designs even though the game sucked.

Modeling pretty much done, comments & critique welcome. I'm still quite newbie at this and texturing is going to give me a hard time, but I hope I can get it done alright
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/661/lowpoly01qx2.jpg

[Raptor5399]

Well I had some time to start mine off. I'm one tri under budget so I think Ill stop. Feel Free to Critique the model.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6163/chibizargabaath2rm2.jpg

Cheers,
CEH

[Supernova87]

Texture work done now, ready for critique in case I missed anything. That's all for this weekend, I got to finish off my other tasks.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Velsthinez/mejudgeprogress02.jpg

:eek:

That's ass kicking yung! great job on the texturing.

Maybe work on the cape texturing and make it asymmetrical? There's also bit of seam i can see and also on the back of the armour. Or is that just me?

Great work nonetheless mate.

[fraglimit]

The textures so far...

[GarrettMinley]

Hey all looking good so far!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/thumbs.jpg

Just playing with concepts, real scratch and sniff right now, don't know if I'll do anymore past this and just get to modeling and texture... after i pick one :lucky:

Let me know what you guys think.

_edit_

btw what is the point of a high res model/sculpt if you can't use normals?

[C Wong]

Nice concepts. I like 5 the best. That was quick yung! Well done! I'd make the other 4 now. Just messing.

BSJoe, thanks for the tips. I think I will sculpt it. Makes texturing easier me thinks.

[Raptor5399]

Dammit I have some rouge verts... Im really 10 tri under budget :uhh: ... maybe Ill add maybe not...

Garret, they all have their own charm... I kinda like #2 but I cant really tell what it is O.o

[nazeil]

Final concept I'm going to model from.

[Aftermath]

does our unwrap get judged ? If not im just gonna PolyPaint in zbrush and use GUVtile for the unwrap. The texture map will look weird but it will be 100% seemless and textured. If i have to unwrap it, its not a problem, i just have other projects under the gun and this would speed this one up.

[bin]

holy mackinaw!! :eek: i LOVE ff12 ( loves FF3 even more :D )

dmightyone : he looks awesome!! :flag: can,t wait for the update..

[Aftermath]

Update: Cut some polys to add shield and weapon and posed it. Now its ready for texture, dont mind the base it isnt finished yet.

Taking A Knee.


678 Triangles.
C&C Please?

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/minijudge2.jpg

[cookepuss]

C&C Please?

What you've got so far looks pretty good. Just based on the mesh, it seems to meet the basic criteria. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any concept piece for this model. Again, based solely on the mesh, it looks a bit generic right now. Nothing wrong with that specifically. Just know that, ultimately, the uniqueness of the end product is going to depend more heavily on the quality and design of the texture.

As far as the mesh itself goes, it could probably use a little tweaking. Maybe some vertex welding here and there. I don't think you'll lose much in the way of quality. You also might want to check out the back of the model. Maybe it's just the render, but it looks like you've got a hole in the mesh that needs closing.

Pretty good so far though.

[Aftermath]

What you've got so far looks pretty good. Just based on the mesh, it seems to meet the basic criteria. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any concept piece for this model. Again, based solely on the mesh, it looks a bit generic right now. Nothing wrong with that specifically. Just know that, ultimately, the uniqueness of the end product is going to depend more heavily on the quality and design of the texture.

As far as the mesh itself goes, it could probably use a little tweaking. Maybe some vertex welding here and there. I don't think you'll lose much in the way of quality. You also might want to check out the back of the model. Maybe it's just the render, but it looks like you've got a hole in the mesh that needs closing.

Pretty good so far though.

Thanks for the C&C, i will go through and clean up the mesh i didnt do that yet. Yea i agree it is a bit generic as far as features go compared to the standard judge (horns) ect. My judge is a crusader type which uses a mixture of plate and cloth i went with a extreme style helm thou. Instead of the traditional crusader box helm and added spikes to the top. My texture work is going to have to be on the money thou to compete with these more extreme ones thats for sure.

As for the hole in the mesh, i check everything with STLchecker and this has come clean of any errors. Its the shader/mental ray causing the normal to show at that angle. If i move the model the global light brings it back.

Again thanks for the help and ill keep this updated with progress.

I didnt know we needed a concept actually sketched out this one was just something i saw in my head when first glancing at the thread.

If we need a concept sheet i might be in a predicament then.

[watereater]

Yung -great job!
GarrettMinley- i like 5
dmightyone-nice base

my first attempt at this:
http://i32.tinypic.com/1043szk.jpg

[Vrav]

That's pretty sweet, watereater.

Messed around a bit, got 120 tri free at the moment so it shouldn't be too hard to fix up density and add a cape before texturing stuff. Looks like a spiky transformer right now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/mwahaha/arrt/3d/artisans/vrav-judges-mesh0a.jpg

Quick and dirty concepts doodled prior:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/mwahaha/arrt/3d/artisans/vrav-judges-cncpt.jpg

[butt_sahib]

@Aftermath:
Everything looks great :D
As far as the unwrap being judged, well, theres only one thing i have to say about that- DEFINITELY! :D An effective and efficient unwrap is a vital part of a game model. Every pixel should be accounted for and every uv space used to the fullest. GUV tiles is DEF. not the way to go here :)

Im loving your entry watereater!!

[3dhippie]

Hi there

what a fun challenge. Must admit it's my first lowpoly character, but I like the feeling of it. Keeping the polycount low, is a nice task and always keeps you rethinking the topology.

so here is what I have got so far:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4601/progress01re9.jpg

comments and critics are more than welcome. And please answer me the question: Does the hypothetical engine support double sided Polys?

enjoy, David

[pand0r]

I might give this one a go.

Aftermath: I love the big mask, great job!

Watereater: That texture is absolutely gorgeous! :thumb:

[blankslatejoe]

there's some gorgeous stuff going on here -- it looks like people are really hiting the theme perfectly!

aftermath - whether or not the UVs get judged depends on the person doing the voting. Snce everyone votes, each person might weigh that differently. Polypainting in zbrushmight give you seamless results, but te uvs will look pretty fugly--it might not be a bad idea to hand uv the mesh and then bring it back in to zbrush for painting.

[Yung]

Woah there's some great stuffs! Keep it up fellows! Got some critiques from a friend so I played with the proportion a little bit and also added a buckle! :D
Alright done in two days! Do I get an award for completing first? :P
Critiques and comments welcomed!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/Velsthinez/yung_ffjudgesubmission.jpg

[Aftermath]

butt_sahib & blankslatejoe: Thanks for the comments i thought about it last night and decided to just hand unwrap it. Part of me forgot that this site was primarily game oriented and in a game the uvw must fill the 0-1 space nicely. So im just going to finish unwraping it.

Butt_sahib: thanks for the comments.
Blankslatejoe: thanks for the comments.
pand0r: thank you i like the helment too, now i need to unwrap and texture it thou to pull it off.

Yung: Very nice!

[Yung]

Aftermath: Thanks! Regarding polypainting straight away, it's definitely worth a try and with only diffuse map being used, you can even transfer the GUV later, as long as u keep in mind of UV distribution and texture distortion. I did some tests for an older mini comp, and it seems to work quite well. At least you got a nice texture to look at while you do yer new game friendly UV :D

[Aftermath]

Does the hypothetical engine support double sided Polys?



I know the unreal engines support 2 - sided objects, im not sure about any other ones yet.


Yung: Yea it would look great but trying to convert the GUV map to a standard game uvw map would make me go blind from stairing at all of those triangle chunks :). Im just gonna unwrap it then pelt the seams.

Thanks for the comments.

[blankslatejoe]

great yung! dont try and submit it yet till I get the 3d minicomp link posted in the brief. the link thats there currently will try and submit things to the gateway minicomp still :) I didn't expect anyone to finish THAT fast :)

[blankslatejoe]

alright early birds, the submission link has been fixed!

http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/mini/character.html

All should be in working order now, thanks for your patience :)

[C Wong]

BSJoe. Just out of interest. Is there going to be a main comp before the Unearthly challenge? I'm sure there are a few people hear that are interested to know too :)

[BiG ToE]

C Wong: FredH said there would be, but he needs to take care of a few things first, so it could be a bit longer. Don't worry though, just Rock On.

[nazeil]

model and UVs. exactly 700 triangles. debating if I should cut a few more out to make a weapon, or just stay focused on the knight.

[ThatDon]

Awesome stuff so far guys, if I find time I will take a crack at this myself, the FF3 DS style remakes are the way to go me thinks.

[NiGHTS2o06]

OK I think (if I have enough time) ill join in too.

Heres the concept so far (needs more detail work and a finalised weapon however it looks like im going the way of the mallet).

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9038/conceptcopydy7.jpg

[mwgrafx]

This looks like fun! Im in!

[C Wong]

Cheers BiGToE. Nice work everyone. Really liking those proportions nazeil. I think you are doing the one that I'm planning to do (judge drace I think). Hope you don't mind.

[nazeil]

nope. not at all C Wong. I think it'll be interesting to see someone else's take on the character.

[bin]

mine. mine. mine.. :paper:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/raigeki_album/judge1.jpg

[GarrettMinley]

Here's how I spent 5 hours of my life:eek: ... I mean day :D

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/scrnshotps.jpg

And here is a crappy camera phone pic of my concept that I am in the process of cleaning :paper:

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/Modelsheet2.jpg

Lookin' good ya'll!

[paprika]

Hi all, this is so interesting and fun. So here's mine..:D

[Aftermath]

wow you guys are coming out of the wood work with some great stuff, im going to have to bring my A game out for texturing. My model does look to simple next to yours Garret :).

Keep it up they look awesome!

[Cunipshun]

garret that looks percfect but how many tris is that

everyone's looking great you guys make this look so easy :cry:

[HntrLuc]

A lot of really great stuff so far everyone.

Yung - turned out great!

Here's where I'm at, 700 tris:
http://huntermortenson.com/mini/judgewip.jpg

[YdoUwant2know]

Yung- Great work, your sure are setting the bar high on this one.

HntrLuc- Very clean model it looks great.

Just a quick update, I'm at 698 tri right now but I could probably take out a few if needed. I think I need to play with the proportions a bit more. It's just not reading Moogle enough yet. Any thoughts?

[PBWerewolf]

Hello! Just saw the awsome:mad: topic and awsome:mad: entries, inspired me to stop lurking and try and enter.

heres my concept:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k46/murduk_kudrum/minijudge.jpg

what I have so far:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k46/murduk_kudrum/screen.jpg

700 tris.

[butt_sahib]

DAYYYYUM!!!
True dat! @ cunipshun! :p

[GrM]

@yung: holy cow that guy came out pretty cool! if anything, it could use a bit more contrast or perhaps a tiny amount of color variation to it, because in the final image the arms are somewhat obscured in front of his chest

@watereater: I like your texture and model, but the thing that sticks out to me is the wings. With real wings, there are primary, secondary, and tertiary feathers, and with your armor, it would likely be only primary feathers. I think if you made the feathers bigger and longer, it would look a lot better and evoke more power, as right now its kind of a nonsensical flow of smaller secondary-like feathers. Not that your guy has to do any flying, but if the wings had more reason, I think it would tie the whole piece together, as the rest of the armor looks pretty good.

I included a cheap paintover/ref for sort of what I mean.

[BigJohn]

I want to try and throw my hat in the ring for this one. I decided to do Judge Drace:
6595

She's the only woman judge. I like women. Sounds like a done deal :)

Anyways here is where the low-poly is at the moment:
6596

I hope I can finish this :) Already some kickass work around here, so the competition is steep. And this one is all about the texturing, which is my weakest link. But this looks like fun, so that's all the matters, right?

[seungeon]

it's my 1st mini_comp.

judge + oriental mask design..

i intend to finish lowpoly work by tomorrow.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2863/minicomp14ctx5.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5698/18n9113ig9.jpg

[cgjeff]

aww.. but i already made one of these in real life (way to many tris though :P )


http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9135/1138167xb9.jpg


I might try to get one of these done during my lunch breaks this week or somethin :)

[bin]

YdoUwant2know : it looks mooggle enough for me :p

:think: still playing around with proportion..

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/raigeki_album/judge2.gif

[paprika]

here it goes, progress testing on the diffuse..:doh: CnC are welcome.

[Amethyst]

I just love these mini entries - so much fun to watch and this challenge turns out to have wonderful characters. Keep up the GOOD WORK!:lol: :thumb:

[MM]

what this obsession with chibi style ?

[-JL-]

Quick question... are weapons included into that poly and texture count?

[ThatDon]

what this obsession with chibi style ?

It fits nicely with the "Mini" comp attitude of being quick and fun!

[Hito]

never played any FF games. Are there female judge masters?

700 for this. Not chibi though.

[Hito]

Quick question... are weapons included into that poly and texture count?

Yes I believe so

[blankslatejoe]

yes, they are. :)

[Aftermath]

ive been tinkering in photoshop some on the texture map, i plan on laying our most of the detail in photoshop and then adding the fine touches in Polypaint via zbrush.

Enjoy!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/PAINTWIP.jpg

[Japhir]

Cewl idea! very nice entries so far!
Even though i'm busy with earning money and therefore don't have a lot of time, here is a wip:
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6553/knightwippy7.jpg
c/c welcome, though it's early.

[seungeon]

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8789/artisankt3.jpg

[WhiteGuardian]

I'm in. Talk about judge, i chose Judge Bao from chinese mitology. Complete with his guillotine
Here my concept and progress :D

[Cunipshun]

@ Japhir i was wondering where u were urs look nice
@ butt_sahib lol this is hard for u too huh?

so far everyone's model looks nice

[marq4porsche]

Here is my attempt. I am doing an my idea of a Judge. I am at 666 tris right now. I know, creepy huh. But anyways, I will be moving on to Uv's and texturing soon. As always, critiques and comments are welcome.

[los]

nice entries.. heres my dude its not Chibi is that cool? is there a rule for that.
I have 4 tris left for some sort of weapon. Alphas are allowed?
http://polyism.com/whatever/sketches/losKnight.jpg

[GarrettMinley]

'nother update, be unwrapping tomorrow God willing
Glad you guys like it!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/scrnshotps2.jpg

Cunipshun _ Well this was 606 polies when I posted yesterday, now it's 700 on the dot, spent like 2 or 3 hours optimizing :inocent:

PBWerewolf _ Dude I like your concept, I know it's loose but I still like it! :thumb:

Oh and here's a cap of the model and the poly count (top right corner, to the right of the pink "www.blender.org 245.17")

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/poly_count.jpg

[Hito]

like the proportions los!

[kirilot]

somebody clear up this chibi thing, i thought that was all part of the "challenge."
too much goodness in this thread anyhow, and everyones jumping on this as if you get free kittens
toying around nothing good, trying to incorporate(rip) the dark night look form ff, but the big head throws off the nice proportions you get with the over sized shoulder pads, they just came out looking like chaos warriors

[YdoUwant2know]

Um... GarrettMinley the competition limit in 700 triangles. Not 700 polygons. I'm not sure how the settings in blender work, but if it is counting polygons that could mean 1400+ triangles.

looking at the level of detail that you have. I honestly believe that is what is happening. which really sucks. you have a great model, but it could have almost twice the alloted triangles.

[blankslatejoe]

yes, chibi IS part of the challenge...i wouldnt say its as important as the 'make a knight' part, but it is part of the brief.

but los, that could be kinda chibi as it is..its not the classic chibi porportions, but it does have that 'mini'look to it.

[Aftermath]

So many great entrys, We dont get free kittens? :(

Night Update Still Cracking away at texturing the armor.

Enjoy!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/paintwip2.jpg

[bin]

start on texturing. :p
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/raigeki_album/judge3.jpg

[cookepuss]

So many great entrys, We dont get free kittens? :(

Night Update Still Cracking away at texturing the armor.

Enjoy!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/paintwip2.jpg
Looks a bit dark in some places. I think that if you adjust the brightness/contrast in some areas then it should "read" better. Right now, my eyes are being drawn to the shield and away from the character itself.

While you're at it, you might also want to widen him up a little. Play up the chibi thing a bit more.

Really, small-ish tweaks. It's looking pretty good so far.

[Aftermath]

Will do thanks.

[Cunipshun]

Garret Minley: Yeh he's right 1400+ tri's ur screwed dude...
the way tri's work r: 1 quad = 2 tris so....
It's PC(Polycount) times 2 equals TC(Tri-count) [Pc x 2=Tc] :p

los: with that much tri count left just apply alpha of a sword dagger Etc. to a plane or make a fan weapon

me (on the other hand) is feelin stuck idk wat to do with the arms
and im at 560 tris i was going nuts at first but now i feel like i made a jouster :lol: i'll tweak him tonight but here i am the 2 planes will be feathers


http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/thunder27111/chibi-knight2_02.gif

[cookepuss]

Looking cool, Cunipshun. Very classic design. My only crit is that you might want to watch his center of gravity. Take away the cape and it looks as if he's about to fall back.

[Aftermath]

Cunipshun: just make simple arms with mits for hands then spend the extra polys on a weapon or scene object.

I like your design alot i kinda wish i would of done more of a jousters style, right now my guy is looking like a pissed of midget necromancer :(.

Those of you who use blender should try Gmax (free downgraded max), or download 3d studio max 30 day trials.

[cookepuss]

Does Autodesk even still support gMax? I thought they discontinued it years ago.

[Cunipshun]

Cookepuss:wow thx i didnt even realize that

Aftermath: well i tried Gmax and i didnt like it then i downloaded 3ds max i felt like i was using Gmax so i dumped but now im working with Maya Student Version and should i do a lance or a sword

[los]

cool thanks for clearing that up Joe. started drawin some armor in.
http://polyism.com/whatever/sketches/losknight1.jpg

[Aftermath]

I vote lance, it fits the toon.

Cookepuss: hmm you might be right been awhile since ive tooled with it. Another free tool i use to model with was Zmodeler (Zananzo Modeler). I hope i spelled it right.

[Cunipshun]

well.... since i have 140 tris left ill go nuts (some more) and to me Blender seems more easygoing for me
im still learning Maya's interface now and im twisted :lol: so anymore votes.....

Lance or Sword

[Aftermath]

Update: HigherRes Screens, Brightened up the map and also darkened the shield so that it doesnt steal the spotlight. Cleaned up some edges. Trying to work on my material, its making some spots to bumpy/noisy.

Someone around here says my shield stands out as a fake piece compared to the rest so i guess im going to rework that. My back section and feet are the main parts im working on at the moment.

Tell me what ya think.

Sorry for the big image, just wanted people to be able to see the detail and point out issues.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/paintwip3.jpg

[Razorb]

Aftermath if the majority of your model is dark and is mainly black, don't use a black background ... they blend together really really badly, use a warm Grey or light Grey maybe just something not so dark heh! but yea im liking the head from the front.

[Supernova87]

Aftermath: yeah the texture does look pretty noisy to me but looking good so far.

[Aftermath]

ok i will work on fixing the noise issue and i will stop using black backgrounds.

Thanks for the comments!

[-JL-]

Something heavily WIP so far... used my Leyla base as a start, and heavily optimized from there. In the end there might not be much left actually of her base, even though I spent some time optimizing a lot... :paper:

Anyways...

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa271/zanuah/MC14_MiniJudge_wip01.jpg

[Aftermath]

Me Likes, i would say shink her body down and make her head huge for more a chibi feel.

[dark_virus_2007]

k here is my start, yep it is Gabranth, I hope he is chibi enough :D

I might also add his weapons so I am trying to get him in under 700 tris.

Im thinking of cutting down on some polies so I can add the weapons, though im assuming I dont need to as I have not hit 600tris with the character yet.

C and c's welcome
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/dark_virus_2007/Mini%20Challenges/Final%20Fantasy%2012%20Competition/GabranthWIP1.jpg

[Japhir]

little update, just coming up with shapes as i go along. I still have about 100 tris left for some more stuff :D.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5606/knightwipnr9.jpg
crits/suggestons etc. welcome!

EDIT: lol the tris-count is doubled because i duplicated my character for a simple back shot, paint pasting and saving is faster than starting up photoshop ;).

[Aftermath]

Zbrush Character Strip: Rightclick save as and load it up in a photoviewer to see the larger versions. Happy grey gradient background this time maybe its easyier to see what needs fixed. Im thinking of just reworking everything but the head. Starting the body over texture wise im just happy with it right now.


Goda love ZAppLink for generating a character sheet for me.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/CharacterStrip.jpg

[watereater]

nazeil- u could probably paint in those cylinders on the chest to get more polys for the weapon
paprika- not sure what ur doing with those strips in the back, but they don't look quite like they belong. I'd

paint some more drop shadows on the gold plates on the helmet to define them more.
HntrLuc-really clean and nice base!
YdoUwant2know-its so cute, maybe bigger hands
PBWerewolf-keep going
GrM-thnx for the insight in the wings, tried to layer the feathers in this update, don't quite like it in this

version yet though
BigJohn-i'd pump the chest out a little more, some wider hips would be nice too
cgjeff- thats awesome man, how long it take u to make that?
bin- maybe some big shoulder pads to offset the side of the hands
Hito-great start, maybe a large head to chibi it more
seungeon-I'd make the hands bigger
marq4porsche-he looks like he will tip over
los-yep alphas are allowed
kirilot- i like the one on ther right
Aftermath- i would add some red bounce light to his helmet
-JL-something different, great proportions
dark_virus_2007-maybe larger hands
Japhir-a 100 tri weapon will work

update:
http://i32.tinypic.com/34ni93n.jpg

[Aftermath]

i was playing with baking colored lights to the texture map so far on the texture is a little blue but now that you say red im going to play with the red values. Maybe pull off something on the armour along the lines of Taehoonoh's BigGun.

http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/spotlights/taehoon/taehoon_3.jpg

[Inpw]

Trying to participate.

Quick scetch:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3404/inpwscetchwj0.jpg

[nazeil]

man, each entry keeps upping the ante. good stuff :)

los - really digging your model. reminds me of the goblin knights from Labrynth

watereater - keeping those circles so they move when animated, but I cut some other polys and got a cloak and wpn out of it.

dark_virus_2007 - the arms should probably be longer. Right now they are incredibly short, even for something stylized

JL - cool looking mesh. look forward to see where it goes.


Started the texture at lunch today. just doing my preliminary drawing so I know what I'm doing down the road

[Hito]

everyone's looking great!

Chibified, slight change in antifipation of Otakon

[Aftermath]

naziel very nice template!

Cant wait to see everyones models textured, i think we should have a Mini wallpaper put together when they are done just for fun. Ill make it if need be im pretty good at photoshop.

Keep it up guys! Cant wait till i get some more practice under my belt, you guys and gals inspire me.

[-JL-]

Whoo! Update... Not quite done yet, needs a better helmet... Currently at 698 tris, oh and she has a face underneath the helmet and the sword comes out. :)

Aftermath :: Thanks. I'll take it into consideration, though if I do change it, it won't be much.
watereater :: Thanks! Yours looks cool too! Very interesting helmet design. :)
nazeil :: Thanks! Look below. ;)

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa271/zanuah/MC14_MiniJudge_wip02.jpg

[YdoUwant2know]

Bin: Thanks. Just a small crit, the neck seems kind of off. it is very thin in the front view but very long in the side view. Maybe try to round it out a bit? nice start on the textures.

watereater: Thanks, I gave the larger hands a try tell me what you think... Your texture work is great, but if you have the texture space to share, try adding something to break up the symmetry.

Aftermath: The mask looks amazing but the textures on the back of the model seem to be lacking the same amount of detail. Otherwise, very nice.

nazeil: looking great, I really like the sword design you have.


just a small update, I played with the proportions a bit; enlarged the hands and shortened the arms. Also added the mask. the hope is I can get the faceless look of a judge on the outside but still have the moogle underneath. Sitting at 700 tri even right now. I hope to have the first pass of textures in the next couple of days.

C&C welcome.

[BiggPapa]

My piece so far.. hoping to tackle the texture soon.. my weakest area.. wish me luck
~Reid

http://www.animationnb.com/08/rpalmer/wip01.jpg

[WhiteGuardian]

Here my next progress

[temmink]

Hi all, thought I would throw my hat into the ring on this one. Almost done with the mesh, didn't really have a concept, just blocked it and threw it together. Deforms would be horrible, he has a nasty case of ass tris and a few other problems but he should look ok posed ;) Love some of the work going on on this one, looking forward to the final results.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7370/miniknightjm1.jpg

[los]

great use of poly's JL.
got a chance to mess with textures for a bit. quick first pass.
http://polyism.com/whatever/sketches/losKnight2.jpg

[HntrLuc]

Wow this is shaping up to be a big comp.
Lots of really awesome stuff everyone!

watereater- really nice, i wanna see some poses : )
JL - great model, cool proportions.
Los - thats coming along great!
nazeil- looking good!

Here's a bit of a texture update

http://huntermortenson.com/mini/judgewip2.jpg

[funkdelic]

:approve:

pretty amazing stuff guys!!

hunter: wow man, some nice progress on the dif map... gonna do the same Judge hope you dont mind, since yours are thousand time better than mine :o

temink: whata nice basemesh mate! Devil polycount btw!

los: nice texture so far man :thumb:

heres mine... critcs?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c149/raffael1231/chibi01.jpg

[paprika]

nazeil - woa, nice plan, i should try in my next project.

los - cool man, nice texture, makes me jealous :D

good stuff everyone!!

[Cunipshun]

slight update lol
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/thunder27111/CHIBI_02.gif

at 692 tri's and no weapon :brick: :cry:
so i cant make a lance and im stuck again on making sumthing original

[EricElwell]

Funkdelic, that rocks!! whoop whoop!

[Aftermath]

Started reworking the body textures what is orange isnt done yet so far all i have is parts of the chest and shoulders worked in. These are just base color maps not final. I also will be reworking the helm some too ive noticed a few nasty seems.

What do ya think?

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/sampletexture.jpg

[Satya]

Whew, everbody got pretty sweet progress here.

Here's mine so far...

[zann]

Wow u guys rock!
My hand is itchy now....:D

[kessler]

Great cheebs, Making Cheebs is fun. And here is my attempt.. I winged a drawing on my break and modeled it when I got home. I ate a delicious steak. My concept was a bit shaky on the design so the model is improvised.
well its nap time for me
From, Günther Kai Von Kessler The Second
6632

[Supernova87]

Kessler: haha, cool design dude! Nice stocky knight concept. I'm assuming ur gonna do opacity map for the helmet hair right? I'm looking forward to you texturing this.

Hmm...steak. What kinda steak was it might i ask?

[urgaffel]

watereater - keeping those circles so they move when animated, but I cut some other polys and got a cloak and wpn out of it.
I know this is really late but you could use an alpha mapped square with a single vert in the middle to give it a bit of volume (instead of a perfectly flat plane). Awesome job so far though, looking forward to more updates. Seeing all these great entries makes me want to do one too (and the fact that I'm in the middle of playing ff12 doesn't make it less appealing either :D)

[dmightyone]

hey guys, thanks for the comments earlier, i've been a little busy for a while but now back to the battlefield. had some time to work on texturing and here's what i got so far, it's a start:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6268/mc14chibiknight2ch9.gif
By dmightyone (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/dmightyone) at 2008-06-25

C n C welcome! great to see so many good entries!!!

[Inpw]

dmightyone - Wow! Very nice shape and texture starting. See some inspiring details for my work :)

[Kwakkie]

Im getting kind of tired with the CHIBI theme, almost all the past minicomps had it :(

Anyway, I never played FF12 and I have no idea what these judges are so let me know what you think of my concept:

[FidliousWong]

So a Soft Deadline means as long as I get something done by July 6th, right?

[Vailias]

Soft deadline means you can get it done on the 6th, 7th, or later, up until the voting closes, BUT to have a shot at getting enough votes to win, you'll need to get it done and up early.

[dark_virus_2007]

nice work from everyone here is my final modelling of the character.

I am not happy with the swords though so I may alter them a bit more around the handles before I do the UVWS and texuring. I can also optimise them a bit i reckon and save a few extra polies.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/dark_virus_2007/Mini%20Challenges/Final%20Fantasy%2012%20Competition/GabranthWIP2.jpg

[Kalango]

wow realy nice work so far guys, one of the most tight minis huh!

[urgaffel]

I am not happy with the swords though so I may alter them a bit more around the handles before I do the UVWS and texuring.
Why not use an opacity map for the swords? Although it might eat up more of your budget than you'd like and if you want two unique swords it might be a bit of a pain so I guess it might not be as good of an idea as I'd hoped heh :)

[nazeil]

dmightyone - awesome stuff!

urgaffel - good point man. I hadn't thought about that. :P

aftermath - There are some really nice details in your texture right now, like the layering on the shoulder pads. But overall the entire texture has a sort of "sameness" about it. Try having some stronger variation in values between the pieces and adding some trims that have color to break it up. keep up the good work :)

cunipshun - you should be able to squeeze out a weapon with your remaining tri's. Just use alpha planes. If you don't want to do that you can cut some more geometry out. The mid section of the foot could lose some tri's as well as your knee pad. Just hunt around for geometry that isn't adding anything significant to the silhouette.

paprika - thanks :)

funkdelic - nice clean mesh. It'll be cool to see how you approach this character.

HuntrLuc - Thanks! and that texture is looking hawt! I love the folds in the cloth. Keep up the good work!

los - nice man

YdoUwant2know - ty. The moogle knight is an awesome idea. Looking forward to seeing it textured.

JL - good stuff

[dark_virus_2007]

urgaffel - yep man thats what i have done and I have managed to add a few extras in other spots.

[Aftermath]

naziel - will look into that when i finish the base , thanks for bringing that up.

keep up the awesome work guys.

[kessler]

Hey Supernove87, I was lazy and just fried a steak with little white mushrooms with garlic and onions. Indeed there will be alpha for the hair and sword mabey. Because of the design I am really slim on polygons.

Everyone is lookin' good like I knew they would.

[Supernova87]

Kessler: Just read ur post! sounds nice meal mate! I was also thinking doing some kinda hair but just put on a quick cape. Reckon it'd look good with just cape, just hair, or both? I may even have several iterations in the end to experiment with once I've got the basic textures down.

Great entries so far guys.

Here's mine. A WIP:

694 Tris

Front:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/magicmonkeydust/WIP1.jpg
Rear:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/magicmonkeydust/WIP1-rear.jpg

Hmm. Not sure whether to make him "good" or "evil". What do ya guys think?

[kessler]

My custom character is evil. In dungeons & dragons Playing a evil character is more fun to play. The following example of this.

example:
Larry "The shop keeper tells you to leave his shop cause he hates halflings"
Ted "I leap over the counter slay him."
Larry "roll"
Ted "20, OH SNAP! I am the roll master! ! ! in your face shop keeper."

[Revliss]

slowly geting there

[Arkadius]

Awww crap I didn't know about this! Everything is looking fantastic, Yung's model blew my mind away. I'm gonna try to catch up to you guys, July 6th is the dead line right? What the hell is a Chibi? Oh hell....my head hurts...

[los]

JL- your models shaping up nicely man
HntrLuc -nice textures as usual, i like your folds really.they hold up well.
dmightyone-solid start on that texture dude. great poly management too
Aftermath-reminds me of predator for some reason, I think its the helmet. I dig it.
funkdelic , nazeil -sweet meshs dudes. my faves for sure.


did more work on it lastnight. started texturing in folds on the cloth area there. touchin it up later in with zapplink.
http://polyism.com/whatever/workinprogress/losKnight3.jpg

[ThatDon]

That's pretty cool dude!

[Inpw]

My first WIP. Still have a lot of free tris to clear shape.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4605/inpwwip01eg8.jpg

[-JL-]

Alright! I'm gonna call the mesh done... unless Don or Joe think that the proportions don't really follow the comp rules... :paper:


los :: Thanks man! Yours is coming along nicely too. The texturing makes it feel a bit Zelda WindWaker like... at least to me. :p

HntrLuc :: Thanks! Nice mesh and texture work on yours already. :)

nazeil :: Thanks!

dmightyone :: Awesome! He looks like a minitank! :D


http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa271/zanuah/MC14_MiniJudge_wip03.jpg

[grindill]

Hi, I'm fairly new on this board, but, I've decided to throw my hat into the ring. I'm liking the really low poly challenge. Here's what I've come up with. I don't play FF of any sort, so I'm making it up as I go along. It's a take on the boar faced helmet. And then I thought it'd be fun to give him a boar spear as his weapon. 388 tri polys so far and lots to add. Comments and Crits welcome.

[GarrettMinley]

I can't take it your models are SO AMAZING! :eek:
I hope to keep up with texturing :D

Thanks Cunipshun and YDoYouWant2Know :thumb: , tinkered around and ended up flipping my entire model to tris, 1180 something of them! :eek:

But now he's around 688 or 694 or something like that

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/scrnshotps3.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/poly_count3.jpg

Also any suggestions on the unwrap?

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/greijacques/unwrapcopy.jpg

dmightyone_Awesome start on the texture
los_I love the toon feel your model has, it reminds me of old Disney movies, "Sword in the Stone" or one of those
hntrluc_ :flag: I can't even touch you man, you kill me in your sleep! Great texture so far!
-JL-Liking the model so far really cool proportions, and I like the big sheathed sword :D

To everyone else, theres SO many, great work!

:D Seriously though this thread drips inspiration:D

[red-fox]

Hey awesome works guys!
Well done.
I've seen this post late, but I'll give it a try!

[Aftermath]

los- right on the money, my model is predator inspired i used a couple of predator shots as reference for texturing. Im making an Unholy Crusader Judge. The end result will be a mix between predator/riddick(necromancers)and kingdom of heaven armors.

Enjoy and thanks for the support.

[WhiteGuardian]

Here my next progress. Next schedule is unwrap :D

[TheMagnetic]

UHT OH... i gots to get me sum o diss pi rite Here! some dope look entries in here!

Hntrlc, Los, Naziel, SuperNova. Strong Pieces!! makes me want to work next to you guys on this action!!

ill be posting some mesh within 24 hours.

[veteehrri]

awesome works here guys, i'll try this one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/veteehrri/14mc_ga/concept.jpg

[bin]

more updates.. :p

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/raigeki_album/judge4.jpg

[Aftermath]

very nice new additions to the comp!

bin when you first posted your texture pallete i was a little worried, but man was i wrong. That thing is turning out very nice. Keep it up man!

Update on mine hopefully tonight.

[Guedin]

Really good entry there ! You make me jealous and want to enter the comp !
Here's my mesh so far :

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.fdbf221ac1.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?fdbf221ac1.jpg)

[funkdelic]

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
texture work so far..
nice work everybody!

does anyone know some good cloth texture tutorial?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c149/raffael1231/chibi02.jpg

[Tatanka_Nui]

dmightyone, that's awesome!

So much good work on this! I'm making sketches, but based on dmightyone's model, I think I should just rip out a low res and paint! Been a while since I did something without the high to low normal map for a coloring book :)

[butt_sahib]

Is it me or is this contest REALLY getting some kickass entries??!
And now magnetic?!?!

[Cunipshun]

Naziel: Thanx now i have 660 tri's and i might change the hands into fists :think:

GarretMinley:thats basically 334 POLIES good job:thumb:

Butt_sahib:NO not at all it's just u :lol:

BSJoe can we use reflective maps too

[WhiteGuardian]

So, joe. What about fred's thread (Shutdown for a while)? I think this shutdown will affect to the competition that still running.

[yoyomon]

Wow, seeing some great stuff!

watereater: my window didn't load up the entire pic but from what I see, it's look'n sweet!
ydoUwant2know: Woot! Moogle Judge ftw!
los: Wow, that's a pretty cool looking model. I'm not too fond of the folds though. I think you should give them the same flat facaded look that you gave to the armor pieces.
hntrluc: Nice model and textures, very clean.

Here's a WiP of my entry. Greyscaling it first.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5162/wip001jn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Aftermath]

funkdelic: very nice entry, rare one too not alot of people playing with cloth.
Yoyomon: Im diging it man.

Still reworking the base texture before i add the color schemes. Making details more visable at the moment. So far chest and shoulders and some of the back is done. Im also playing with a new shield design.

C&C Welcome Enjoy


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/newtexbase.jpg


Im also playing with a Red Cross ( Crusader) Then the basic colors are crome/slatemetal/gold heres a test.


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/ICRYWHENIPOO/testcolors.jpg

[bin]

too... many... great..entries :

Aftermath : good work so far!! but.. it looks overcontrast IMO ( did i spell it right? :D ) especially on his forehead.

yoyomon : he,s looks awesome!! i like how u define his feets.

WhiteGuardian : FYI Joe's already extended the deadline.. and hey! we,re still have the softdeadline thingy aren,t we?

funkdelic : whoa!! at first glance i thought it,s hntrluc's judge!! :p
err..as for cloth.. u can always use photoref. if it,s drapery that u mean.. try sculpt it on ZB n baked it as AO map

[Aftermath]

yea, the helm and some parts of the armor are still pretty bright for now but when i bake my material in zbrush it will tone it down. Thanks for the heads up thou.

I agree so many great entrys, i love this comp it allows me to pass time with ease.

[ThatDon]

here's my little wip
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8958/wip1copyxv5.jpg

[Supernova87]

ThatDon: wow great model dude! You've really captured the silhouette perfectly, it's easily recognisable.

[butt_sahib]

cunipshun: ;)

YOOO yoyomon! :D
looks great :D

[incre]

hey thats really great stuff here:).
I like these little Knights so much, that i want to join this contest. I´ve just started to model a mini crusader. Here is my first WIP:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll148/increvj/knight.jpg

[2000yearsoldman]

Hello everyone.
I saw the comp info on yesterday, got very excited then did this sketch last nite. But I hope I can finish the model before deadline, because I am on a very tie work schedule now.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2612533521_76a100331b_o.jpg
Put red on the character, because I saw everyone's character got very cold color, so I hope red can break the different. I may cut the shield out, depend on the poly later.
Enjoy

[TheMagnetic]

nothin spectacular im doin Ghis. he seems the easiest and im tryin to get a move on thru this comp! just here for the exersize!!:cool:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/TheMagnetic/ghisTR.gif

[Aftermath]

hey thats really great stuff here:).
I like these little Knights so much, that i want to join this contest. I´ve just started to model a mini crusader. Here is my first WIP:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll148/increvj/knight.jpg

i love this thing, especially the flag on his back and the monty python horse!

Keep it up!

[ThatDon]

nothin spectacular im doin Ghis. he seems the easiest and im tryin to get a move on thru this comp! just here for the exersize!!:cool:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/TheMagnetic/ghisTR.gif

excellent model my friend.

[Raptor5399]

excellent model my friend.

Bah, what about my model? Oh wait... you chose the same character... maybe we cant be friends :uhh:

2000yearsoldman
Really like the concept.

Cheers,
CEH

[grindill]

There are a lot of good models coming out of this competition.

incre: Love the model and the horsie is great.

ThatDon: Model looks spot on.

Aftermath: Really nice texturing so far.

Revliss: Great start, can't wait to see more.

dmightyone: I'm liking this one a lot. Great stuff.

And lots more good stuff.


I think I've finished my model. Here he is in all his 692 tri glory. Let me know what you think.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2614064174_aff498c6a5_o.gif

[Japhir]

love it themagnetic!

[Aftermath]

thanks grindill!

[nazeil]

los - thanks man. really digging how yours is coming out.

Garret Minley - model looks great. I'd spend some more time with your UV layout to maximize the space you're using.

The Magnetic - thanks man. Your model is coming out great.

bin - looking cool man. keep working on the folds of the cloak, it's the weakest area right now.

ThatDon - slick looking model. so nice and clean.

more lunch time texture work, blocking in sections/layers. hoping to get a decent chunk of uninterrupted time this weekend to texture.

[veteehrri]

wow, really cool updates everybody, gonna start modeling tonight.

[Inpw]

Mostly done with mesh. 660 tris so far. Any ideas how to spare rest of tris?

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2040/inpwwip02up3.jpg

[funkdelic]

nazeil: pretty cool mate! I can see a lot potential on it..

[ThatDon]

nazeil - Awesome work so far mate.

[Styx]

ok, im late and have not much time the last and next weeks.
but here are my jugde WIP´s ^^

http://xxmurphyxx.xx.funpic.de/media/gallery/Realtime/characterdesign/Mini%20Judges/01.png

http://xxmurphyxx.xx.funpic.de/media/gallery/Realtime/characterdesign/Mini%20Judges/02.png

http://xxmurphyxx.xx.funpic.de/media/gallery/Realtime/characterdesign/Mini%20Judges/03.png

http://xxmurphyxx.xx.funpic.de/media/gallery/Realtime/characterdesign/Mini%20Judges/04.png

http://xxmurphyxx.xx.funpic.de/media/gallery/Realtime/characterdesign/Mini%20Judges/05.png

[blankslatejoe]

inpw - you've got enough for a weapon -- how about a poleaxe or a halbred? Looks like that mesh would deserve an elongated weapon to go with the elongated/skinny look

[BigJohn]

Such awesome entries so far. It's crazy

This is turning out to be a really fun mini-comp. Anyways, here is my current WIP:
6663
It's going kinda slow cause I'm working on a few different characters at the same time, but it's real fun so far.

[Jido]

The amount of good work in this comp is plentious, and I haven't posted in a while... well.... here goes...

Using Judge Drace, being the only female judge, as a very loose reference to create my own judge hoping to capture the style.

Started with getting the proportions, then built the armor around, optimizing as I went. Going to put more ornaments on her helmet and a few other places and use any leftovers for a weapon.