Mini Challenge #1 - Remote Robots

[FredH]

http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/extras/mini/1.jpg

Theme:
Remote Robots

Brief:
Are you ready to create some quick and easy game art!? In our first ever 3d mini challenge on gameartisans.org, we are looking for some original, cool and very creative Remote Robots. These robots should be small, movable and multitask capable. Whether you make yours cute or seriously army-like, the choice is up to you. We don't need to see the person behind the controls, but we do need to see the Robot, its toys if any, and maybe the floor it is standing/rolling/hovering on. Please do not make a new thread for your entry. Keep all w.i.p shots in this specific thread.

Good Luck and may the best robot win!


The Specs:
- 500 polies maximum
- 1x512 diffuse,
- Optional bonus maps: 1x512 spec, 1x512 normal, 1x512 transparency, 1x512 glow
- Cords that lead to a remote control do not count towards your 500 polygon limit. This cord can only be a simple straight black electric cord. Nothing fancy.



Final Submission:
Once this challenge is complete, you will be given a link to where you can upload your single final 1000 x 1000 image


Prizes:
1st place:
- 1 book from Amazon.com (up to $30 value)
- 1 new forum and gallery award icon for mini challenges
- 0.5 points towards raising your overal game, elite, and/or master rating on gameartisans

2nd place:
- 1 book from Amazon.com (up to $20 value)
- 1 new forum and gallery award icon for mini challenges

3rd place:
- 1 new forum and gallery award icon for mini challenges


Public Voting:
All Winners are chosen through a public voting system. Only GA.org members may vote.


Deadline:
August 15th 11:59 pm Eastern Time

[Surreal3D]

Wicked! So where exactly do we post our work? Only in this thread? Finals included?

[BiG ToE]

thats what it sounds like to me.

[FredH]

For Finals, well, it's still being programmed. Here is a template of the form you will use:

http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/mini/characters.htm

It will be extremely simple. In the end, everyone's art will be displayed in thumbnail format in a page similar to the standard comp's view entries (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/competitions/2/view_entries.php) page.

[Marcus Dublin]

Given the theme of the comp you can really let your imagination run wild, it should make for some very interesting models. Good luck and have fun with it everyone!:thumb:

Marcus

[Frozan]

hmm i might have to take part in this. :) also great idea Fred

[_Vincento_]

Hey i will forward the link to my school
Thanks for this amazing contest

good luck to all :)

[Ultemate]

Hmm.... robots.... very nice. I'm out of it. Good luck everyone. :)

[andrei313]

Once quick question: When you say "500 polies maximum" you mean triangles or polygons?
Thanks

[Miguelito]

tris buddy

[_Vincento_]

from my side i tried a thing like that :

480

it's 450 triangles, i will keep the last to detail the arms i think.

good night :),

_Vincent

[Marcus Dublin]

Make sure you thicken up the middle pivot on it, it's a bit thin at the moment and doesn't look to stable. Keep it up _Vincento_!

Marcus

PS: On you next update post some wires if you can so e can get a better read on the mesh construction.:)

[shadowbreeze]

hmm i think i'll give this a go, sounds like a great idea.

[FredH]

Here are some sketches I did on the bus. I will personally take a shot on the one at the bottom. If anyone is interested, if you fancy something in here, feel free to use it. You can change it any which way you choose, or just leave it as is.

http://www.artbyfh.org/Artwork/misc_3d/mini/1/sketches_01.jpg

A model like this should take 3 days max in a company. Since we have a week, it shouldn't be a problem:D If anyone needs any help, feel free to pm me. After all, I am one of the 3 GameArtisans big brothers:D

Good luck

ps, oh, btw, before someone mentions it, yes, the one I am doing is similar to an old model I did for 3dtotal. However, this one will be a game model, it will be 500 polies, and it will be a robot this time. This should be different enough:D

[Antimagic]

Niice mini comp, nice sketches. If you don't mind, I will try my luck with this one here:) (see attached)

[FredH]

No problem:) I have updated the image. Good Luck:thumb:

[andrei313]

Thanks a lot for those Fred :) Can I have this one?

[FredH]

andrei313 --> Yup, sure man, go ahead. That one is a little bit round on the back. I tried to compensate by giving him no real legs so he basically only has feet:p I hope 500 polies is enough. Good Luck

ThatDon --> That was my second favorite. We have similar tastes:D Good Luck

[shadowbreeze]

thanks fred, i would like to do this one:thumb:

[Frozan]

i want them all running around on the street walking our dogs!

[Frozan]

haha cool looks like those security cams got a bit of an upgrade :)

[andrei313]

andrei313 --> Yup, sure man, go ahead. That one is a little bit round on the back. I tried to compensate by giving him no real legs so he basically only has feet:p I hope 500 polies is enough. Good Luck

Thanks a lot. What you said got me thinking. I started modeling and didn't rally know how to fill the inside, solve the connection of the feet problem and stay under the 500 limit... then I just though of something that can solve all those problems and probably look cool :) Since he's pretty round it looks like he's protecting something inside... that's where the engine should be, so he has a huge ball of electricity power that acts as a magnetic field keeping him together. Right now the back would be his week spot :) but he's very flexible even if he looks heavy so he can handle it :)
Obviously I'm over the limit and I'll have to add a lot more planes since he's going to be glowing a lot :) but I'm sure I can bring it down to 500 with no problems. I can cut a lot from that sphere too, maybe even replace it with some intersecting planes.
I'll keep it simple but I'm still thinking if I want to change one of the weapons to be different.
Any suggestion? Thanks.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6968/remoterobot01ez7.jpg

[FredH]

Thatdon --> That was quick:eek: Really nice job there. You got everything spot on.

andrei --> The ball in the center is a cool idea. Yeah, I agree, to make it work, you might have to use a lot of planes. Perhaps even make the back layers of planes so it looks like armor on top of armor. Besides this, nice start man.

[andrei313]

Thanks. I don't want to over do it because I usually get lost in details and don't get to finish so I'll stop here with the model... and unwrap it. Textures will come tomorrow :)
The back is still not protected... I'd rather leave it like this, I might complicate it too much with more planes in that area and I'm not sure if it will be worth it... especially since I need o cut tris from other parts and add them there.
It wasn't mentioned in the Specs is we can have 2 sided materials but I'm guessing it isn't allowed since it would double the polycount so I cloned my planes and flipped them just to be sure. Hope you like it.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8969/robot02gv8.jpg

[BiG ToE]

andrei313 : if you rotate the feet outward a bit, it will give your model a more balanced feeling. Other than that, I like it.

[Antimagic]

Here is mine. It's at 492 polies. I will save some just in case I need them later.

ThatDon, nice work. I dig how you made his feet.

[Marcus Dublin]

I have zero crits, these are all looking so awesome, it would be cool when alls said and done to have one big wallpaper with these guys. Keep up the good work everyone!:lucky:

Marcus

[FredH]

Antimagic --> How about if you use the extra polies to put in a joint where the wire meets the backpack? Besides this, nice work man. It's looking ace.

Marcus --> Great Idea:) Let's see how many we get. If ten or more, I will wip everyone until they give me an image I can use for a wallpaper:D

[Rawk777]

Nice challenge idea :) . I'll go with a FredH sketch too :) .

[Antimagic]

Thanks for the tip Fred. Will do:)

[_Vincento_]

waouaa guy very nice jobs :thumb: ,
New updates, with wireframe render now Marcus :)
http://www.blog.gen-art.net/images/3D/GA_Mazda.jpg

_Vincent

[Rawk777]

I have 484 triangles.

Anyone have comments before I start to unwrap?

[Rawk777]

ThatDon : good job so far. I think you could put a single eye if you ever need a bit more tris. He looks better from the side. Maybe you should work on the front and back view a bit more.

Andrei313 : good job too, nothing to crit. You could remove the middle edge of the top part to save tris if needed. Could be used to add details to the guns or the back pack.


Antimagic : Good job, looks like a megaman monster or something :).

Vincento : Good job too, but the middle pivot still looks weak.

[Bbox85]

Alright, I'm taking a stab at this one. Here's a quick little turn around I did of a something I've got rolling around in my head. Just a little floating doohicky with a funky antenna on his head. It looks a little over zealous right now, but I'm gonna make it work... I swear I will.

[Rawk777]

Here it is with the color scheme I think I'll go for.

[FredH]

rawk777 --> Nice work man. It came out looking just like the concept. The addition of a side antenna was a great touch.

Bbox85 --> Ahh, you are going for more details by using planes for the tentecles... Nice idea. The zero arms and zero legs will give you lots of polies to make him round. I hope for the bottom, you will make it glow like the hover pads that make the hover ships fly in the movie, The Matrix.

Vincento --> Nice start, but I wonder if it would look better if you increased the width of the wheels by x2. Right now, from head to toes, he has the same width. By making the wheels 2 times wider, this would break this lined up look. Also, if you have extra polies, maybe you can use them to add more wires in the middle (the area that joins his body with his feet). That area looks extremely thin. Besides this, everything is shaping up nicely. Keep up the good work:)

[miezis]

did someone say robots? i'm soooo in!
here's my quicky:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6905/remoterobozl8.jpg

he's an astro - drop bot, ment for probing new worlds and entering their atmosphere at high speeds, thats why he has such aerodynamic profile.

[Marcus Dublin]

The robot you have is sporting some great features there miezis, I'm digging the razor sharp feel to it. One thing you may or may not want to try is having his limbs connected by pulsating electricity, you can do thing effect with an alpha, just my 2 cents!:thumb:

Marcus

[Marcus Dublin]

Hey Rawk777 I'm not sure if you unwrapped just yet but here's a paint over of some optimizations you can make.:thumb:

[Marcus Dublin]

Looks like and interesting design Bbox85, I can't wait to see how yo pull this off, good luck!:)


Alright, I'm taking a stab at this one. Here's a quick little turn around I did of a something I've got rolling around in my head. Just a little floating doohicky with a funky antenna on his head. It looks a little over zealous right now, but I'm gonna make it work... I swear I will.

[_Vincento_]

Vincento --> Nice start, but I wonder if it would look better if you increased the width of the wheels by x2.

Haha FredH i just did after uploading the image :D but I went bed before updating on GA.

http://www.blog.gen-art.net/images/3D/GA_Mazda.jpg

Thank you for the tips, i will pass to the unwrap step too.
Miezis you could try a style like Rayman (http://perso.orange.fr/gamers-france/rayman%203.jpg)too, i thought to that for my arms but i finally not used it.

_Vincent

[andrei313]

Stated texturing... This would be the part where I don't know what I'm doing anymore :( But something has to happen :lucky:

[Bbox85]

You read my mind Fred... GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!

[FredH]

Bbox85 --> Lol. My bad.

andrei313 --> Putting in tanks wheels was a genius idea:thumb: I think if you did a search for tanks, (http://images.google.ca/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=tanks+treads)you can find some really good copy and paste reference for your treads.

Vincento --> ahh, you were already on it. Good good. Yup, this is much better! Next, don't be afraid to tilt his back, his head, and his wires a bit. Right now, it looks like he has an extremely straight and stiff posture. Why not play around with it some more and see what happens if you make him a hunchback (body leans forward a lot and head/neck tilts backward to compensate for forward body) or something. Otherwise, keep up the good work:)

miezis --> A chrome style eh? ... this will be interesting and unique. Looking forward to seeing how you finish this one.

[Dentysta]

I am not sure if my cruel toaster fits this competition's theme. If not, please inform me here :) It is 497 tris

[Marcus Dublin]

Nothing wrong with the toaster idea Dentysta but if you’re going to do it then go all out and add some kitchen utensil parts of death. Think Twisted metal black when you’re looking into your monitor:thumb:.

Marcus

PS: Ditch the extra edge loops around the cylinder!

[Scjohnson5551]

Hi this is the first contest on this site for me I love all the work on this site and I am looking forward to more but enough with the sucking up here is W.i.p so far on the Mini Robot i changed it up a little from the concept i got ride of the third leg and went for more of a segway look and i move the arms but it was for the better the Poly count was 482.

[FredH]

Scjohnson5551 --> Welcome to GA.org:) You came up with a very nice design here. Everything balances very well and I really like the head area. This is going to be a very cool little bot when it's done. No real crits other than saying... keep doing what you are doing. It's looking great.

ThatDon --> bah, you don't need any additional crits:p

[Marcus Dublin]

Scjohnson5551: Welcome to the boards Scjohnson5551, this little guys looking cool, I hope you manage to fit the tail thingy in some how as it gives the robot a bit of balance.;)

andrei313: Hey, andrei313 you can keep your texturing fairly simple and go with the mega man look as seen in the image below. I’d use some soft shading and well positioned highlights to really make it pop.

Marcus

[Kalango]

I'm going with this one, realy nice sketches Fred :)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Kalangossauro/sketches.jpg

[Rawk777]

Marcus Dublin : Thanks for the tips, it did help me to free*some polycount space to add more details. its now at 478

I will try to finish it this week.

[shadowbreeze]

well here's what i'm up to so far i've just finished the blocking in, im going to give it a bird feel, all though after looking at the pick for a while i'm starting to see things, like where the arrow points it's starting to look like a mouth??

just a screen grab

[FredH]

Shadowbreeze --> Nah, that's not a mouth. What you have already looks great. I see that you connected his arm to his body. I am guessing this is so that you can normal map him. If yes, maybe you can join his feet with his lower legs. This will let you come up with something cool in the normal map as well. Otherwise, nice stuff man. So far, it's looking just like the concept.

ThatDon --> Wow, you really went crazy with that one. The two new versions both look better than your old version. Except for maybe one thing. I don't really fancy the large legs. If you kept them thin (same thickness as your old model), I wonder if this would make your topheavy part look even better. Right now, I see big everything. Variance could be cool, but it's up to you. REally like the whole hands setup btw:thumb:

[andrei313]

Thanks Fred. I wasn't really thinking about tanks when I made the wheels, I noticed a lot of robots had those but you gave me an idea with that :D and although what Marcus suggested can work I decided to go with a WW2 look and turned him a little tank.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6019/rrcz2.jpg

I feel that the weapons don't work anymore... I need to think of something more suited... like a cannon :)
As you can see I dropped the electricity thing... it wasn't working for me. Now the parts are floating and it's not realistic... but I don't mind, it works for me.
Another thing that I don't like is how the top part looks like. I think there's not a lot of UV space for that part and it looks blurry. I'll try to rearange the UVs, although all the parts have the same proportions I feel that the top part needs a little more because it's the first thing you see. depending how I'll texture it I might even mirror the UVs to double the textures space.

[zann]

Yo mates, im back for tis mini comp :lucky:
Here is my "mini" robot, hope it pass the regulation
The polycount is 498 for the moment, c if i can decrease further.....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t252/Zann_annZ/robotB.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t252/Zann_annZ/robotB.gif

cheers

[Marcus Dublin]

Now that's just cool zann, welcome to the comp!:thumb:

Marcus

[miezis]

damn cool! if i may add, you should have some details rotating furiously while transforming, just as they did in transformers movie.

[Amethyst]

Zann, I visited the art gallery but could not find anything posted by you?!
I would love to see some more soon......

[Kalango]

finished the blockout :), going to details and optmizing...
so fun to do this little fella....
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Kalangossauro/3D%20art/Personal/robot%20mini%20comp/wip1.jpg

[Marcus Dublin]

I really dig the proportions Kalango, the small feet help add to the charm of your little guy. The one thing you may want to do is raise the forearm section up a bit if you plan to have his forearm pivot at the elbow area. Other than that nice work!:)

Marcus

[miezis]

hey don! those bolts could easily be painted texture, you'd be waisting a lot of polies that way.

[zann]

Marcus - haha thx alot, glad to be in tis comp!:thumb:
miezis - hmmm i wonder if i got parts to be rotate, thx for the comment:think:
Amethyst - err perhaps i didnt post anything here b4, haha will try to show the progress more later on:D

cheers

[BiG ToE]

ThatDon: I hope your just having fun, this last version kills FredH's concept, in a bad way. Stop playing around, go back to the first version you made and start texturing.

[Marcus Dublin]

Agreed, the second pass you made was gold.:thumb:

Marcus

ThatDon: I hope your just having fun, this last version kills FredH's concept, in a bad way. Stop playing around, go back to the first version you made and start texturing.

[ThatDon]

pft! I have no intention on actually finishing, like I said I'm just messing around! Good luck to all

[FredH]

ThatDon --> Yeah, characters are hard.. even robo characters:D

Zann --> That's Really cool man! You really put some thought into that little one. Nice work.


Here's my first pass on mine. I'll probably mess around with the proportions some more when I texture this little girl. She is exactly 500 polies and yes, I put in the scarf to skimp on modeling the joints for the shoulders and neck:D I call it, her magical scarf of poly skimping :p
http://www.artbyfh.org/Artwork/misc_3d/mini/1/mini_01.jpg

[ThatDon]

Are you challenging me there Fred?

[FredH]

Are you challenging me there Fred?

Oh, My bad, I didn't mean for it to be a challenging remark... or did I?:D

Wish me luck on mine:D

[Kalango]

UUUUU!!!!...yah he is...hope you realy finish this one ThatDon....and do not erase your replies again ¬¬...

Thanks for the tip Marcus, heres the finished modelling work...:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Kalangossauro/3D%20art/Personal/robot%20mini%20comp/wip2.jpg
Since i had no other detail to add i decided to make this little joystick so i can control it :)
c&c people! c&c!
we shall unwrap it tomorrow then....

[Antimagic]

Kalango, Is the remote part of your bot's mesh? I do believe the cord is not considered part of your 500 polygon limit, so I think it is safe to assume that neither is the remote stick. For everything else, I really like it so far. If you have extra polygons from the remote, if it were me, I would put them into a thumb for each of his hands. He would really need these in order to lift or hold something.

Fred, As usual, you managed to make a few polygons look like a lot. Looking forward to seeing the textures.

zann, That's just awesome! After seeing yours, I hope I can animate mine as well. It looks like a lot of fun.

[ThatDon]

Fine! it's on, you're going down Fred. :mad:

[miezis]

yeah, don, you can't hide from us - refresh masters! stop it! :P
kalango, nice work there, a little chicken bot you've got! :) and it looks like he's about to control himself, how perverse!

[Kalango]

wi wi i will use all the tips i got... add a thumb and maybe some more stuff in the back and front....thanks Antimagic and Miezis :)
Oh Don u finaly bought it...HAH!

[BiG ToE]

I wanna play too!:think:

FredH, if you will. Thank you.:inocent:

[shadowbreeze]

well this is where i'm at i don't know if i'll get it finished :mad: dam chest infection.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q287/shadowbreeze99/big%20Games/greek_gods/duckie.jpg

[Antimagic]

Don't know if you will get it finished? You are like 80% done already:s You even have a nice presentation. Your little guy is so cool. Hope you will finish him. The steampunk styled colors really worked out for him. If you have any extra planes available, it would be cool to see you add in some clockwork gears with transparencies. Maybe stick them out of his back or something. Hope your chest infection will get better.

[ThatDon]

wow shadow, you're sure going to make it hard on us.

[ThatDon]

final model
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3101/finalmodelgk3.jpg

[FredH]

ThatDon --> Hope you won't delete your post again:doh: Your new version is looking really good. The hands are much better. I wonder though if raising his crotch area would be cool. And maybe make it more narrow. Right now, his lower half area is competing against his upper chest area because they are almost the same height and width (I am not counting the white panels that enclose his chest).

Shadow --> that's really sweet man. You did him justice. I can't find anything to crit on him, so the only thing left to say is.. keep up the good work:thumb:

BigToe --> I don't mind at all. It's nice to see you in on this one:)

An update on mine:
http://www.artbyfh.org/Artwork/misc_3d/mini/1/mini_02.jpg

[ThatDon]

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7425/betteryu6.jpg

any better fred?

[miezis]

it is better don, but try moving his groin more to front, like he's making a pose and add some balance too, right now he looks like he's about to sit down/fall backward.
shadowbreeze, just light it correctly and you're off to finishing line!

and a question to fred: can i use diffuse, specular and normal? total 3 texture maps?

[ThatDon]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6115/newproportoinsxh7.jpg

new proportoins

[zann]

FredH - Hey thx man, jus making something simple more interesting:D I lik ur progress :thumb:
Antimagic - haha by adding the anime will bring ur robot to live for sure! :)

Ok here is the update, still tweaking n testing on the normal map:lucky:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t252/Zann_annZ/robot_colour.jpg

cheers

[BiG ToE]

ThatDon: looks nice and all, but, and don't take this the wrong way, I know how sensative you are. But the feet from the first version hits the concept on the head. You add those feet and keep everything else the way it is, then you can start texturing. Then you can redeem yourself for not finishing the Lynn remake.

[miezis]

wow, wicked textures, zann! stuff like that could be really deadly, love the military machinery style you chose!

[Marcus Dublin]

I'm someone who deals with metal surfaces all day and I have to take my hat off to you Zann! This is terrific work:) and if you didn't add a single pixel more to the texture it would rock but if you want to push it over the top I would add some subtle color variation. Areas that would benefit from this would be where the base of the Gatling gun starts and the bullet round begins, the same goes for the two main shafts holding the doors open as well. I love the clean look to it but some slight scuff marks would look cool towards the bottom, I wouldn't over do it though, keep it sexy;)! Sweet work man, I can't wait to see this with the normal and spec maps! Keep it up!

Marcus

[BiG ToE]

first pass, it's not what I was hoping for. Turns out Fred can sketch better than I can model. I'm not surprised.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/004-17.jpg

[ThatDon]

Cool, thanks for the input guys. Zann! incredible!

[Rain]

Really cool bot there zann. The clean textures really made those 500 polies look like a lot more.

BigToE, I think you chose a hard one there. What if you made the back legs more thin? They don't all have to be the same size. Big Front legs with thin back legs might be a nice contrast.

[FredH]

miezis --> Yup, you can use one of each.

zann --> That's just awesome man! Really nice work there.

[Kalango]

Nice work Zann :)
some minor updates..:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Kalangossauro/3D%20art/Personal/robot%20mini%20comp/wip3.jpg
will unwrap and high-poly it later thsi night or tomorrow...
Oh and i deleted the joystick and added some polies, so its 496tris now

[sinz]

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/937/bombotx9di3.jpg

Hey I made one too...

This is a disarmament bombot called X9.

Hope you like texture time...

[Masakari]

Damn, caught this a bit late... but gonna try to whip something up!

Zann: nice work on that bot. I like the fact that you thought about it's transformation (being a real one), and that's some great texture work, i can really "feel" that metal! Now all you need is some more work on the normal map!

BiG ToE: i saw Fred's concept, one of the more catchy ones (for me). I think the connective bits between the actual leg and the center ball could just be a cylinder, saving a few polies for other places, like maybe the leg. Also, maybe that center ball could connect with the main chassis via a "bicycle wheel" type of array, which could be just a tex with alpha channel.

[Marcus Dublin]

Hey sinz I like the design overall but the head of the model doesn't capture the same feel as the concept. The front part seems thicker while it tapers towards the back in the drawing but the mesh seems to be in reverse. Same goes for the neck which comes across less sturdier than the concept. If you can I would give a second pass to the mesh to see if you can capture the spirit of the concept better. Aside from that nice going and I look forward to your updates!:)

Marcus

[Rain]

Sinz - I like the concept, but I think the model still needs a little work. Did you try only putting in one arm in front? Most of the bombots that are around today only need one arm to disarm a bomb. Maybe this would look good on yours? In loosing the other arms, this would free up a lot of polies for you to round everything up so that your bot matches your concept more. Otherwise, nice start! I am sure with a little more tweaking, he will be a very nice model:thumb:

[Argon]

:eek: That is really cool zann. With only 500 polies, I didn't think something like yours could have be done. Same for Shadowbreeze.

[BiG ToE]

no offense to FredH's drawing, but I'm ditching it.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/004-18.jpg

[Marcus Dublin]

Nothing wrong with that, it's fun to see what artist can come up with on there own. I'm having a hard time though figuring out the front from the back but I'm guessing the locomotion given th arm length is similar to an apes. I guess I'll have to wait until it's more fleshed out, keep us updated.:)

Marcus

no offense to FredH's drawing, but I'm ditching it.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/004-18.jpg

[BiG ToE]

yeah, I'm not liking the body too much, so I'll play with that for the rest of the day.

[shadowbreeze]

thanks guys for the comments:thumb:

zann - great work, i could very well see that in a game and frustrating the hell out of you as you try to get past

Fred - how come i have this feeling your is going to be another master piece:eek:

that Don - come on, you know what to do:thumb:

Big Toe - your new one looks really funky, i like it, but the old one was looking good to.


so here's where i'm at, the drugs the doc gave me a fairly strong stuff so i think this is still working.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q287/shadowbreeze99/3rd3.jpg

[Marcus Dublin]

shadowbreeze: I could see him running around the star wars universe as a little junk bot. Nice going on the textures but the one thing that stands out is the pixel ratio, it seems off to me. Considering the texture size for such a small mesh it should be reading a bit sharper, if you don't mind could you post the texture sheet.

Marcus

[shadowbreeze]

Marcus Dublin - sure, i had this happen before even on models that have render spot on before, the next day wham they render out blurry, i've check my uv's as some one suggested but they have not changed all nice little checkers. so yeah??

[ThatDon]

It looks like you sharpened the image a bit too much, sexy stuff though :)

[Masakari]

My entry, currently at 479 tris, Spikey the Paint & Tattoo Bot.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6884/gamc01wip01xn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-11

[BiG ToE]

more progress:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/009-5.jpg

[zann]

Tis is getting more happening! :)
Thx u guys for the criq n tips:D Glad u all likes it :lucky:
Im finishing soon, but fredH and Marcus, wat should i include into the only piece of final image? Something like combination of beauty shot plus construction sheet or jus simply a winning pose will do? :think:

cheers!

[FredH]

If it were me, I'd probably break up the image into several panels and show it's construction, different angles, and a beauty shot. But, it's realy up to you how you would like to present your final:)

gridlinked --> It's looking good so far. Just a thought, perhaps it would look cool if you made the 3 legs thinner. Everything looks like it has the same thickness. If you made the legs thinner, this would put more emphasis on the upper body.

BigToe --> Waiting with anticipation.... Right now, it's hard to see how it functions, but I am sure once the textures are in, everything will be explained.

[miezis]

gridlinked! man this is cool, i'm amazed at what people can squeeze into 500 polies! some work on proportions will make it even cooler, like fred said - try thinning down the thighs and and putting some emphasis in size on guns, could make it even better.

and heres mine, i think i 'll call the low poly modeling done, and do some simple high poly stuff. some thoughts from you guys would be really cool at this point!

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9834/remotein1.jpg

[Antimagic]

That little dude is looking really sweet miezis. A mix of thin and thick objects really give him an interesting shape. Can't wait to see his textures!

[ThatDon]

Nice model buddy :)

[Masakari]

Thanks guys. Currently working on the hi poly.

miezis: really cool, like antimagic said, the different thickness of the parts gives it a visual dinamic. I think your little bot is just screaming for a pair of evil glowing eyes hehe :D

Fred -> what about the actual tex maps (diff, normal, spec)? Should they be present in the final image, or not necessary?

[sinz]

miezis: I love the design keep it up.

Thanx for the input guys I hope to get this in soon and I did infact delete the other arms, I just thought it would be cool to have it rotating/interchangeable arms for specific tasks but one arm would do I guess.

Updates soon... hopefully =/

[zann]

FredH - Got it:)

So here is my final bot v 488 tris, did some detail works on making the dirt n scratches here n there, sharpened the normal n spec. Will concentrate on the final image tomorrow n good luck to all :thumb:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t252/Zann_annZ/robot_final3.jpg

cheers

[ThatDon]

zann wins ;)

[Rawk777]

Sorry I can't crit, I have too much to do, but Zann's is the best for the momment. Here is how far I went with the texture's diffuse map. I have 4-5 concepts drawings of the environnements it could be within.

I decided to go rusty because I wanted to do a map that had a lot of details. For the momment, the map is 100% self-illuminated, and is 1024.

Do you think I should bleed the rust in the white parts?

I don't know if I will have the time to do the normal maps. :s .

Thank you

[Marcus Dublin]

Okay Rawk777 you may want to back up the truck a bit on the texture and give it a another pass because it's hurting the model. The rust you have is coming off way to unrealistic and the colors are off, first things first, ditch the rust completely and just concentrate on the metal work itself. You want to make sure that the metal is just right because everything else with fall into place after that, rust is an easy component to work in at the last stage. Here's a couple of guides to follow to get you on your way.

1. Never use 255 color on anything, the orange yellow color is the same intensity across the whole model and you used rust to break up the color which is incorrect.

2. Never use 100 white on anything, which is what you have on the white parts, to me it's not reading like metal, plastic, composite, etc.

3. Make sure the scale is correct, the scale of the rust and metal seems to belong to a Hummer rather than a small robot, make sure the biggest rust streak is never longer than one and a half the length of it's finger. Keep them small in some spots and slightly longer on other spots.

4. For metal work reference is your holly grail, make sure you grab some reference of small devices and machinery to see how wear and tear accumulates across the surface.

I could go even more in depth but it would be good to find some metal tutorials on the net to so see where you can improve it overall. The good thing is these changes with a little bit of work can be easy and fun. Feel free to ask any questions and I'll be happy to lend a hand.:)Good luck!

Marcus


Sorry I can't crit, I have too much to do, but Zann's is the best for the momment. Here is how far I went with the texture's diffuse map. I have 4-5 concepts drawings of the environnements it could be within.

I decided to go rusty because I wanted to do a map that had a lot of details. For the momment, the map is 100% self-illuminated, and is 1024.

Do you think I should bleed the rust in the white parts?

I don't know if I will have the time to do the normal maps. :s .

Thank you

[BiG ToE]

So what's the word on gridlinked's question:


Fred -> what about the actual tex maps (diff, normal, spec)? Should they be present in the final image, or not necessary?

[keo]

4. For metal work reference is your holly grail, make sure you grab some reference of small devices and machinery to see how wear and tear accumulates across the surface.


and once you've figured out where the wear and tear should go, grab some photo ref/textures from here: http://cgtextures.com/ certainly not the only source of free texture files, but one of my favorites.


:thumb:

[FredH]

BiG ToE --> It's up to you how you would like to present it. There are no rules for this. If you feel like putting in your texture sheets somewhere, by all means, squeeze em in:)

Keo --> Wow, that's a nice link man. Thanks for sharing.

[Rawk777]

Marcus Dublin : Thanks for the tips :) . I started all over. I only kept the gray part of the body as it was.

Keo : Thanks for the link, I used it ;) .

I still have work to do, but I don't have much time left :( . Is it better this way ?

[zann]

Tis looks much better to me! :thumb:
Perhaps more shades around all the joinning parts eg. the shoulder where the white meets the yellow body, n the green eye on the white face. Last try to match the yellow col on the chest v the rest, haha hope these crits helps:lol:
Good luck & cheers! :)

[Masakari]

Yep, and you could desaturate the yellow a bit, so it isn't so bright. But it's looking much better man! :thumb:

Hi poly model done, around 1.4 million polys, onwards to processing and texture:

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir730/1187183807.jpg

[_Vincento_]

Hey Rawk777 it's going better now, maybe you could add some detail on his face ;)

There are very nice stuff now.
@ Zann really cool to see you there :p
@ miezis i'm really impatient to see your little amazing Robot textured

Here a screen of mine :

http://www.blog.gen-art.net/images/3D/GA_Mazda_final.jpg

http://www.blog.gen-art.net/images/3D/textures/mazda_dif.jpg


Here is the head zModel:

http://www.blog.gen-art.net/images/3D/headzModel.jpg

But it we don't see well the normal map.

_Vincent

[Marcus Dublin]

Rawk777: That's look much better dude, it’s much easier on the eyes, nice job.:thumb:

gridlinked: WTF, hehe, you have gone above and beyond, I'm curious to see how it turns out.:)

_Vincento_: Make sure you try and add a bit of contrast as it's reading a bit flat at the moment. Some nice highlights and shadows could really add life to it.

Marcus

[_Vincento_]

Thanks Marcus,
But the 3 renders on the right are just simples screenshots from the viewport in Flat mode.
I don't know really what kind of light to use, i ussualy use a photometric IES Sun, I don't know ifit's good.

i' will post a turnarround ok.

_Vincent

[Marcus Dublin]

_Vincento_, don't get ahead of your self, a simple 3point lighting system should work just fine. Use target lights and your on your way.;)

Marcus

Thanks Marcus,
But the 3 renders on the right are just simples screenshots from the viewport in Flat mode.
I don't know really what kind of light to use, i ussualy use a photometric IES Sun, I don't know ifit's good.

i' will post a turnarround ok.

_Vincent

[_Vincento_]

Yes Marcus i will do that now :)
I finished the rendering it should look like to that:

-> robot_turnarround.mov (http://www.blog.twenty-team.info/popupBlog.php?width=640&height=480&src=movies/ga_robot_turnarround.mov)

_Vincent

[Scjohnson5551]

Here you go and up to date pick of my robot firefox

[ThatDon]

those renders are incredibly dark, light it up, right now it looks like you're trying to hide something....

[FredH]

Vincento mentioned that once again, the submit finals button is broken. In this light, I will need to extend the deadline by one day:flag: Stay tuned for the announcement.

Scjohnson5551 --> I think the problem is that your background is pure white. This is making your entry seem more darker than it really is. Aside from that, I am not sure why, but I feel like he can use one more additional color somewhere. The red it too close to yellow, so there is nothing really that stands out. I am not sure which color you can use, or where you can put it, but if you have time, perhaps give something a try and see what happens. Good Luck and keep up the good work:)

_Vincento_ --> Hey! He turned out very well there. Good job on the tank wheels, but, if you have time, perhaps put in some shading in the inner section of the entire wheel section. Right now, it almost looks like the inner workings of the wheels are popping out on top of the treads. You really need to push that area back with shading. Otherwise, nice presentation man.

gridlinked --> :eek: No comments. I really have to see how this little guy comes out in the end:eek: Niiice!

Here's mine:p It's just a test render. I normal mapped and textured this little dude last night. It's messy, but, oh well...

http://www.artbyfh.org/Artwork/misc_3d/mini/1/mini_03.jpg

[Masakari]

Nice work Fred, excellent stuff on the helmet & face. Looks chilly in there hehe :thumb:

[Frozan]

ohh man fred i really like yours. cool feel to it. u should do a few different faces for fun i would like :)

[Rawk777]

Wow, an extension. fiou

I'm still on the rush's adrenaline ;) .

I'll comment in a sec.

[Rawk777]

Shadow breeze : Looks good :) . Did you use a bump map as well ? The texture looks good. I'm just not convinced that the top part of the chest is the better choice. The front face of the face could use a transition with the other parts.

BigToe: Any texture ?

Miezis: This guy look cool. any texture?

Zann : Nothing to crit, looks really good.

Gridlinked : This is awesome. I just wonder how the nmap will look once baked. I'm not sure that all of this will be clean on the 512 map. Can't wait to see how it turns up.

_vincento_ : looks good. the gears on the side of the "feet" could look better.

Scjohnson5551 : Good job. Reminds me a bit of the half-life bot.

FredH : Awesome texture work, is it really 512 ?

[Masakari]

Much better Rawk :) Have you thought about adding some paneling / detail to other areas of the body other than the front torso? The head in particular is looking a bit sparse.

Here's my wip, still some stuff to do. I have to make a proper specular map (using the diff for that atm), add scratches, chipped paint, some dirt, and clean up the small border edge on the opacity map fins. I made my bot in line with punky sensibilities and the "Homeworld style", the pink stripes will be desaturated / chipped / dirtied up, only the visor and fins will remain glowy.

This is turning out better than what i hoped for, i too had my doubts if the detail would translate well on the normal and diff maps, but it did!

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir755/1187273740.jpg

[_Vincento_]

Wow gridlinked that's very impressive, good work :cool:

my lastest update:

518

Thanks for your advices guys.

@ FredH : Hey! what a little cuty robot haha, your one is amazing, very nice :)
thanks for the tips on the shadows, infact it had that before but in adding the grey metal texture the shadows disapeared, i forogt to fix them.

Turn arround updated:
-> robot_turnarround.mov (http://www.blog.twenty-team.info/popupBlog.php?width=640&height=480&src=movies/ga_robot_turnarround.mov)

_Vincent

[zann]

ScJohnson5551 - nice bot :)
fredH - haha cute, cant wait to c the final version!:thumb:
Rawk777 - hey it turns out much better :)
gridlinked - woh tats pretty impressive dude :eek:
_Vincerto_ - nice to see u here too! U really digging it hard, good job!;)

Good luck to all, cheers

[FredH]

gridlinked --> Oh my, you managed to get that into a 512 sheet. My hat goes off to you man. Well done. Just some small things.. For his eye, does it have to be a grid? You have a lot of grids on the back already so perhaps a more solid glass eye or glowy eye or something could be cooler. The reason I say this is because right now, it looks a bit like a speaker phone rather than a viewing portal or something the bot can look through. For the hands, are the pointy tips really needed? They are the only thing pointy on the entire bot, so they stand out more than they should. If you simply removed them, or made them look more like a barreled ending, maybe they would fit in more naturally with the rest of the bot. Besides this, everything is looking good man. Congrats on getting everything on your sheets. I am really impressed.

Vincento --> Yup, that's much better now. If you didn't mirror the windshield, it would be cool if you had a strong white highlight somewhere on there. Additionally, if you have any extra polies, I would suggest putting in an additional logo or two on his chest. You can do this through the use of transparencies. I mention this because his chest looks a bit barren. Besides this, good work man.

Rawk777 --> Yes, I simply used a 512 sheet for dif, glow, transparent, normal etc. In order to get everything in, I mirrored everything. But I regret this a little for the face:flag: Hey, I see that yours came a long way there. I am glad you decided to lessen the rusty look. It's much better now. Like I mentioned with vincento, your bot is in need of a few logos or stickers of some kind. Perhaps around the wheel area, or chest. Aside from that, I am not sure if you have time, but if you could put in some shading or a ring of some kind around every joint (where something meets something), this could be cool. For example, where his torso connects with his bottom wheel, put in a black area on your sheet so that it looks like there is a hole where his torso would enter and connect with his wheel base. Then, put a metallic or small highlight around this blackness so that you enclose the blackness with a small ring. Do the same for his shoulders and neck/chest connections. Besides this, keep up the good work. You are making good progress.

[Masakari]

Thanks Fred! I toyed around with a lot of visor types, but only liked two, and have been using the hexed one:

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir762/1187291736.jpg

As for the pointy things, i've got no polies left, even if i remove them, i can't do anything good with the few remaining tris. The bot is 500 tris, the maximum hehe Plus, since he is a tattooer (spelling?), anything else other than a needle would look a bit funny.

[_Vincento_]

Hey gridlinked well done for your robot, just that he could be more alive with a visor or other thing ;)

519

I shared my mini robot here: GA_Robot.rar (http://www.blog.gen-art.net/share/minifilemanager/GA_Robot.rar)

_Vincent

[FredH]

http://www.artbyfh.org/Artwork/misc_3d/mini/1/final_concept.jpg


Gridlinked, I see your delima. How about if you put in a glass type thing with a bit of glows? See attach for an example. Regardless, it's already looking very good man. With 96 additional hours, you will have time to finish this little guy to perfection:) Good luck.

[FredH]

After seeing vincento's.. I like his better. A simple highlight on a black surface looks really cool:thumb:

[Antimagic]

Fred, that will be a tough one to beat:s Sweet job there. p.s, I can't believe you finished:p

Gridlinked, I also like vincento's eye mod. The rest of the robot is looking really good otherwise.

[_Vincento_]

I can't believe you finished:p
haha well said Antimagic :lol:

[Frozan]

currently its a zann, don, and fred FTW

[Marcus Dublin]

Hehe, let's not jump the gun Frozan, there's still time for people to polish there stuff up and make adjustments.Good picks overall though.:)

Marcus

currently its a zann, don, and fred FTW

[Scjohnson5551]

This has been fun Love all the bots and thanks for letting me enter

[Masakari]

Thanks for the feedback guys, i went with the one Vicento suggested! Here's my final entry, 500 tris, 512x512 diff + spec + norm + glow + opacity. Image quality is a bit crappy, cause having a 1000x1000 image in less than 200k is a bit hard, made the texture seem a bit more blurry, but no panic! hehe

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir769/1187319706.jpg

Cheers for everyone, nice comp! i'll be leaving for vacation in a few hours, so to those that are still working on this until the 20th, good luck!

[ThatDon]

Good Job Grid :)

[FredH]

Antimagic --> Well, I was bound to finish something hehe:p

Scjohnson5551 --> Nice work here. The new eye color and gun color really worked out extremely well. I am glad you played around with it some more. For your presentation, this is a very nice thing to do.. however, remember that the robot should be small. Right now, your brick's and ground's pattern size suggest he is very big. Maybe a new background? Nice work other wise:thumb: Keep it up.

Grid --> The new eye came out looking good man and your presentation rocks. Your file size is still too large by the way. I will not be able to upload that one. It must be 198k or less, otherwise, the system will reject it. Also, don't forget to email me your password at fredh@dominancewar.com or tell a friend to upload it for you when the system is ready. Enjoy your vacation:)

[Masakari]

Thanks guys! Fred, sent you a new one via email, my apologies :o

[FredH]

Got it. You are done now:) Enjoy your vacation:thumb:

[shadowbreeze]

rawk- yeah i used a normal map in some places, i agree with the top plate, but to be honest i'm trying to keep my entry's for these comps fairly simple and relaxed, so i'm going to leave my entry as is i don't want to get bogged down, i have quite a lot of other models on the go:D

FredH - i just new it, great stuff is that duracell batteries i see at the back.:thumb:

gridlinked - ha you and robots, sweet as:thumb:

[Frozan]

grid that came out really well. can i see some extreme lighting conditions to see your normal map shine possibly?

[FredH]

Shadow --> Yup, he is carrying a duracell battery:D I put in their logo on my new version here: http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/mini/1/finals_6.html I think it's easier to understand this way.

[ThatDon]

I told you not to challenge me Fred:mad:

(press on link to enlarge image to its natural size.)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8471/finalcompcopynj8.jpg

[_Vincento_]

Hey really nice ThatDon :)

[Sordid23]

don: maybe you should check the seams again couse there a few cases where you realy see the uv seams

[kipiripi]

Dont worry Fred I am here, Hehe ThatDon I hope Your robot ready to LOVE,Because my one need to make love :)

Long time no see guys,little busy,I hope I can find time to 3d model..

Anyway,here is my Plush Robot,He wants to make L-O-V-E :D

Btw: he have a place to say something good for your best friends (its somethink like Greeting Card)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/fernament/PlusRobotWantstoMakeLove.jpg

[FredH]

Thank you kipiripi for defending my little robot. But, I don't think I want to watch how you defend my bot:p In fact, I would prefer to keep my distance... something like 10 - 20 miles away would be nice:lol: Nice Start there. Hope you make the 3d model this time. Your record for imcompletes is almost as long as mine haha (I am still the defending champ, well, actually, bobo_the_seal is, but let's not get into that.)

ThatDon --> well well well, look who decided to show up hehe. Nice work there man. The style you came up with for this one looks really wicked. If you have time, it would be cool if you sunk the grate a little on the pedestal. It looks kind of strange being perfectly flat with its border inclosing. Otherwise, I am glad you finished this one. I didn't think you could do it, but you finished in style man;)

[zann]

ThatDon - lov the colors! Good job:thumb:
kipiripi - haha funny bot u hav there! ;)

cheers

[BiG ToE]

I would like to see kipiripi's concept battle it out with my extreme make-over model.

[Rain]

BigToE vs Kipiripi, hah, Hits below the belt are usually illegal in a fight.. but in this fight, all the hits would be coming directly from below Lol. Terrible :lol:

[kipiripi]

Fredh: hehe yes,bobo_the_seal so far Champion in that section.
zann: Thanks.
BiG ToE:Are You Talking To ME! :) Hehe super idea,it can be really interesting battle :D
Rain:No rules,just make it out :) Hahahaha

[ThatDon]

Final Entry

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4056/donfinalug1.jpg

Fred would you be kind enough to submit this for me?

[BiG ToE]

the submition tool works now ThatDon, give it a try.

kipiripi: I'm going to work on an animation just for you.

[Rawk777]

I worked on a scene to put in that robot :) . The bump map on the robot is not shown because I still have some work to do on it.

I think this is the first scene I ever build.

[Jill'san]

Rawk777, nice additional scene, but the dots on the floor, they are so small that they are causing strange patterns. What if you try a different texture? Also, the green light on the back wall conflicts with the green lights of your bot's eyes. Consider changing their color to blue maybe? Otherwise, it's good that you went the extra mile and put in a background. It's good practice:thumb:

[Dominian]

ThatDon, Really cool robot! I really like his style.

[Antimagic]

Rawk777: on top of changing the dots on the floor, I think his green eye needs just a touch of a highlight in it. I think you can do this by simply making a new layer and switch it to overlay. Then paint a white highlight on it. Or, you can just paint directly over your textures, it's up to you. Nice work otherwise:)

ThatDon: Wicked style there! He turned out looking really cool. Congrats:cool:

Here is mine (see attached). I finally had some time to start on it this weekend. I am a little late.. but alas, I think I will make it:)

[Rawk777]

ThatDon : Good job. It could fit in "warsaw" :).

Antimagic : The texture reminds me of the style of some WWII games. Is it a kind of nazi bot ? :p

I tryed to put some texture on the eye of my bot, but (botbut, lol), it's not quite an highlight. Maybe I'll try something else tomorrow.

Imperialism : I followed your advices :) .

___

I changed the lighting and made some progress on the scene's texture. I hope I didn't mess it up :s .

The bump map is on now. The scene's total tri count is 11424.

I need to set my maps to 512 (they are 1024 ftm) and make a nice 1000x1000 entry :) .

[BiG ToE]

well, I did what I could. Used the extra time to try a few things. Some worked, some did not.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/Ape-Bot-Final.jpg

[Scjohnson5551]

I would like to Change My final to This Final plz

[FredH]

BigToe --> It came out looking really good. The direction you went with the metal turned out really well. It's great that you took this opertunity to practice a new technique. It's a shame you don't have a enough time to finish his head (3 hours left), but I guess it's very late there in the uk. Well done man.

Scjohnson5551 --> No problem. I will update your entry later tonight. Congrats on finishing:)

[Kalango]

so sad i couldnt finish T.T ... looking great people :), loved your one antimagic :D

[Rawk777]

How can we see the submissions?