Naruto Challenge | TryForce | Yondaime

[TryForce]

Naruto Challenge | TryForce | Yondaime
http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/competitions/uploaded_thubnails/35-game-3d-art-200-1189002323-thumb.gif

TryForce has entered the competition!

[funkdelic]

Hello mate :D
good lucky man!
I know that you just love animes, try to finish yours...

take care

[KICKER]

First thing I thought of when I saw this competition...

Tryforce must be psyched!

good luck man, time to shine!

[TryForce]

thanks you two =P

I'm still not sure since im no Cg inspired latly, but for this sake of competition i probably will do something, even if it will be unfinished!!11!!!

Anyway i will make something like a redesign. I will make him in somelike modern Ninja art.

Hooded jacket, tight clothes, maybe some pimping Bling bling as comfort clothes . I will try to give him a "mysterios,Serious,scary" face look, means , dark shaded and meanie eyes!


what do you think about it?

[TryForce]

Meh i know No comments withouth Picy, >_< atleast some support please!

anyway i probably did wrong with the drawing since it doesnt show him in real, but i will try to get him taller while modeling, just sketchy:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/DSC01024.jpg

Ok, short description:
Like said, the 4th will be wearing a Hooded T-shirt, on it a Vest. The Shirt and Pants have the design of the Hokage Sign.
His belt wears the Konoha sign as a chain will be hanging down to the pants with kunais hanging on it ^^ .

As you may notice his arms have some protection. this is just an adjusted short sleeve with a metalplate ontop of his palm.
His lower legs are covered and fixed by Bandages.

On the back of the Vest im going to give the Typical sign of his on it :)


Its hard to draw good details with a bad pencil, aint it? xD

[vjun]

I think the design is quite refreshing for the Yondaime :D
rather than the original outfit, I think yours is cooler.
Are we allowed to totally modify the appeareance while still keep the character strong? I mean I'm thinking of modify the cloth design for my Sasuke entry

[3d_er]

By the looks of it, quite a few people are modifying their clothes and even style for their entry. I am sure it's ok if you mod yours vjun.

Tryforce, so far so good. Keep it up:)

[Eclipse]

Tryforce, I like where your sketches are going, I'm really interested in seeing how the final mesh looks, keep us posted!

[xvampire]

Yondaime!!!

good luck for making my most favorite character!
yondaime is awesome ..., he is look like the mature version of naruto ...
and he was one of the legend of konoha village ...

some random fanart and official art ref, it may contain spoilers ,!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_NQ9M0icOUQ

I might join this comp, with this character also(or maybe someone else) gud luck :D


ps :

for the crit on ur design :
the hand is little bit too skinny compared to the leg and the belly ...

[TryForce]

Vjun: THanks =D , yes you are allowed as i know.
3d_er: thanks =)
Clipse: I bet you are :D
Xvampire: He is actually my most favorite character, you can really compare him with any Animal as he is strong/fast and just completly balanced , but still nothing special in his apearence. His Personality is Mysterious, that why i like him.
I have seen alot yondaime Vids, pictures, refrences =P , thanks though for the youtube link, will come handy when i will check my thread and need some visual stuff!
on the Design/Drawin, i will try to avoid those situation in future, though drawing aint my strong side :'(


in anyway, i did the back as i probably change from muscle t-shirt to his default one:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/DSC01027.jpg

still not sure about the legs design. The color is going to be more White-Orange-lightbrown.

Please keep the comments, =D

[SupRore]

Tryforce: Right now those ties around the sleeves seem really pointless, design wise -- just a little, uninteresting detail to burn polies and texture space. Why not give him baggier sleeves, and let them really change up his outline? Also, keep your polycount/texture limit in mind while texturing him. If you want it to look good a normal map, that cord around his waist + those throwing knives are going to take a ton of triangles to full realize, for a detail that doesn't seem to do much -- just there for detail's sake, since it'd be pretty hard for him to quickly reach them there anyway. Why not incorporate them into his coat, or something, instead of the hanging wire? Less polygons, more plausible, and probably cooler looking.

Anyway, aside from those crits, I'm liking this so far. Good luck, man. :)

[TryForce]

Sup, you got a point on that, really, even though Im more concentrated on the design then on how im using the Polygons and uvwspace yet. maybe im doing wrong,
While my inet didnt worked i did a short front ref...comment please ( will think about the sleeves sup)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/design.jpg


tbh i dont fell yondaime in it.

[TryForce]

uhm, i think those proporations look better:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/design-1.jpg

[Chasarsis]

Coming along cool dude. I'm liking the hoodie :)

[Yung]

Looking cool so far, Tryforce. And a good choice on character!

[TryForce]

Thanks you 2, I got now a crazy idea!!!!

What if Yondaime has tranferred the 9-tailed fox inside hisself??? ^^ crazy shizzle! YAAAAAAAA new ideas!!!

Yeh svenime gave me a good idea making it look like yondaime: adding the hokage jacket just with ripped sleeves. whohoo yayaya, hope i will draw it down well -____-

[TryForce]

still not sure -___________-
anyway used real manga poses as a refrence/bluprint as for help...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/sketch2.jpg

meeh

[TryForce]

ill just keep posting:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/sketch3.jpg

[Kerepres]

Wow, you're really hard at work :D
Keep posting:thumb:

[TryForce]

Hehe seems its getting noticed =P

BIGGY THANKS TO MY FRIEND HUNTER!!! (WHOHO everybody please take a beer for him)

He again saved me from sinking into the deep water by helding is hands and taking me up to the boat. He Sketched a concept for me , wich is pretty cool, though i Edited it abit with his permanission!

<3 Hunter!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/final.jpg

the proporations will be changed abit while modeling!

[ThE_BirD]

Lookin good:) reminds me a bit of Hyung Tae Kim's work which is awesome...
I really like the 3 straps on his torso for some reason ...it'd be cool to repeat some of his design elements throughout his body a little more. Besides just looking cool the swirls on his knees or the reds could be used to pull you through the design a bit more... good stuff:)

[funkdelic]

dam nreally nice, well I cant say too much cuz i never saw this character in the anime, but this neu design is really cool...
want to see something in 3D, keep that up!

[Chasarsis]

That's pretty awesome dude! I love the color scheme and design overall. I think you can push it in some places too. Like having his shirt extend over his shoulders some, or having his pants a little baggier.

I think with so much black already in the design, you'd be better off sticking with a darker color that still breaks him up, but isn't such a jarring transition in the middle of his form. Especially when you're going to have a design like the one on the pants legs repeat on cloth around his waist. I think it would especially make sense there to keep the colors the same.

[TryForce]

@Bird: Thank you man, ;D

@Funkdelic: You sure will see Next update something 3D =D

@Chasarsis: I got some good feedback about this , kinda similar to yours, So something about the clothing/design will change. Also the proporations will be abit changed, not to much though. As i will push a few things out =) Thanks mate!

@Hunter: i know you read that xD <3

anyway, now only a headref i think People are looking for haha, Feel free to use it ;)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/Headref.jpg

[donatello]

Wow! That's a cool Yondaime design, TryForce!
But I would prefer to tweak more design element on those 2 swirl on his knee. Because it looks kinda... or.. are this supposed to be something ...??!!! great signature, TryForce :lol:

[ALW-DaSilva]

hehehhe..thanks to ur head ref try force...i really like ur design...thumbs up

[TryForce]

Donatello: this swirl actually signs Yondaime, since i have it seen only in the apearence of Naruto and Yondaime. :) thanks

ALW-DaSilva:
;) np man, always lucky to help, hehe yeh Hunters-mind the design =D


ok here is a update, please comment!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/wip-16.jpg

[Yung]

Hmm is it necessary to build the head without the hood as well? I mean if u build it with unremovable hood, you could save some tris? But nice work so far. The nose bridge seems to be a little long don't you think?

[3dsquid]

cool, i like his unique outfit :)
keep on going!

[Marcus Dublin]

So far so good, keep up the solid work.:)

[ALW-DaSilva]

wew so ur start the modelling...ow yeah this will be sharp...
awsome keep going....

[TryForce]

not much of an update, though im trying to hold up with this comp ;)
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/wip-18.jpg

[Chasarsis]

stop lazing and bring us more updates! =P

[zann]

So we r doing the same characters huh :lol:
Nice progress anyway, keep up the good work :thumb:

[Kerepres]

Looking good, glad you decided to with the hood:thumb:
It's easier to distinguish your yondaime this way.
Keep it up!

[TryForce]

Chasarsis: ;P
Zann: yeh thats why i though i should start on mine, since.... you know xD
Kerepres: hehe yeh , all others try to do the originalone just abit different ;P

now....
4,432 tris so far, i kinda expected less , but luckly i havnt gone over the budget, if there is any crit or suggestion ,please tell!

so piccy:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/wip-20.jpg

[YdoUwant2know]

Wow, a great start. the lower half of the body feels really heavy in comparison to the upper half. you could try bringing in the pants a bit to help even it out. If you have extra tri, you could add some to the cape so it will be more fluid.

nice work so far.

[zabuza2k]

nice work tryforce i like it

[TryForce]

ydouwant2know: yeh, agree on most of you, have fixed this, though you will see in the next update i think.

Zabuza2k; ;D thankies!

so an update:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/wip-21.jpg

[Van]

Nice work so far TryForce. The design makes for a good silhouette. I would agree with an earlier post that it is a bit bottom heavy. Maybe bringing the shirt a bit over the shoulder might help that. Also, I can't really tell from the angle I'm able to see, but the hood and arch in his back looks a bit flat. Then again it could just be the angle. Good work everywhere else.

[Van]

haha.... I just posted as you were posting your colored model. My last post was suppose to go before your last post. Colors are looking real good.

[Genz]

yummi nice texturing :)

[cookepuss]

I would agree with an earlier post that it is a bit bottom heavy.

It's not so much bottom heavy as it is too "top tight". There's a very loose fabric feel to the bottom, a bit too much maybe. On the top, it's the exact opposite, almost custom fit. I think that if we were to look at the underlying body that we'd see some greater equality. I'd say, either loosen up the to cloth or tighten up the bottom.

Apart from the top/bottom thing, the only small thing that sticks in my mind are the hands. Something about them seems weird. Maybe it's the webbing between the thumb & index. Maybe its that the sleeves seem a bit shorter than in the concept. Either way, coupled with the size thing, its almost as if his shirt got shrunken in the dryer. :p Not really, but you get my point.

Great design as a whole. Very stealthy. Nice soft color scheme. Strong work so far.

[Eclipse]

Very nice Texturing Tryforce! The model is looking really solid too. My main crit would be that the fingers look a little thing and too long.

[YdoUwant2know]

Textures are looking very nice. I really like the hand painted look that you are going with . very cool. looking forward to more.

[TryForce]

Van: Yeh i kinda thought about that, but i Probably wanna stick true to the concept xD , so i cant do wrong in anyway ;D thanks

Fuxer: Haha :D nice to see you here, thanks

Coke: Yeh i dont like the Hands "sideview" wise myself, i will take a look at them, they're indeed strange o_O

Clipse: <3 Nice to hear that from you :D , I will do something about the fingers! Thanks man!

YdoUwant2know: yeh i like this style myself, though this texture is more painfull o_O ... so much work, never worked harder then i do now. thanks.

Update, -.- i dont want to do the head, but i gues i will have to, Im actually pretty much done allready :D just the rest left.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/wip-22.jpg

Any Crits are welcom, same for Comments ;D

[YdoUwant2know]

WOW...

the textures really just pop. looking fantastic. The legs look much better size wise with the rest of the body. over all, this could be a top contender.

great work

Oh by the way... I know my screen name is a long one. However, it is one i have used for years and have grown rather attached to. if you really want, I can tell you a trick to type it out faster.

ctrl + C ; ctrl + V :D

[ALW-DaSilva]

wow tryforce..so ur run fast huh... i really like ur model but i think it's little bit thin in my opinion....and ur texture..awsome dude...its kinda like magician...keep it up....

[tef]

I love your texture, atleast on this low res image. I have to agree with ALW-DaSilva that he is a bit on the thin side though. I would make his shoulders and hip/thigh more manly. But on the other hand he has a style deverting from the original ninja style so why shouldn't his body aswell.

[Mike_inel]

Organization numbe-- oh wait, this is Naruto! heheh...
The colors and textures are sweet!
His body looks young though, but perhaps it's just your style?
I look forward to seeing this finished in deadline! Looks cool!

[TryForce]

YdoUwant2know : Yey i did it YdoUwant2knowYdoUwant2knowYdoUwant2knowYdoUwant2know... *jk*
Thanks man :D

ALW-DaSilva: hehe yeh looks like that probably. i made him bit more thicker sidewise. thanks!!!

tef: well i hope i kinda fixed it now, but i still wanted to stick true to the Concept, so he is probably like that, not sure, if its still bothering you please tell! THanks aswell :D

Mike: Hahaha finaly got a comment from you :P
Yeh when i did the head i kinda though the same way, So i did the headtexture abit like that. Still will fix the headteaxture probably.
i like this style and I did it for a quite while, but actually i think its more Hunter style, not surre =)

hehe you will see it in the top 3 :P
Thanks :D

so here is the update:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/finish.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/closeup.jpg

Crits and Comments are very welcome guys!

I'm still looking for improvment! :D

And yeh, big thanks to the_bird for his Private Feedback, Man you made this concept shine!
And ofcourse great thanks to Hunter, you own!

[Yung]

The colors is pretty nice! My only crit would be the head's face seems a bit weird, and its a bit too dark rite now, its taking away visual interest elsewhere. Keep it up.

[zabuza2k]

go tryforce go tryforce XD i like it mean but i have say it u on msn -_-

[Thunder Bunny]

This one is almost like Kindom Hearts meets Naruto. I kind of like that. Naruto always seem to have a little kindom hearts in there somewhere.

[3dsquid]

whoa, very cool work! i love your color and pattern on the clothes :D
but i agree with yung, the face needs to be brighten a little bit, keep it up mate!

[xvampire]

hi triforce,
its comin along!

Im learning ur kunai now, its looks good, even tho its little bit bigger than i remember....

[TryForce]

hehe well i kinda remember it beeing the size of the kunai like palm + half of the forearm.

Thanks for the support guys ;)
really did t much =( , but i wanna get this not to the final, hope i will handle the rig >_< , if not then, meh.

highres time: (big pic)
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/30845/2006283490686552734_rs.jpg

quality got abit down by the host.:yawn:

[Thunder Bunny]

I have to say, I like your Yondaime the best, it's like Kingdom Hearts meets Naruto. You really took the character and made him your own character. Great work man. The only suggestion I've got for you now is putting some slight noise filters over your texture to add some difference to your texture. You know dirty things up a bit. That'll help make it feel more believable.

[Mike_inel]

Yeah, dirts or noise will be cool!
Heheh, he's gotta be tougher than Enigmatic Soldier!

[Kerepres]

Hey there, looking great Tryforce.
Like what Thunder Bunny said, try adding some noise.
And perhaps you can check on the head, it seems a little too small compared with the body. Any how, the overall seems good :thumb:

Another thing, hmm... not sure if it's your camera affecting the length of your model, he looks somewhat longer in perspective view but he looks ok in front view.:think:

[zabuza2k]

wow nice tryforce ^^ have really a good textur

[Miguelito]

If your character has a selfilluminated comic look then your pedestal should also be in the same style. At the moment it does not fit together..

[Yung]

The textures came out nice, but I still the face could use a bit more polish, to make the whole entry shine. Still good work so far, now start posing it, less then two weeks to the new deadline! :D-+

[TryForce]

@Thunder Bunny: Muhaha, You know how to cheer me up :D, thanks man, though i dont know what filters i should use :doh:
@Mike_inel: yes sir ;D
@Kerepres: i have noticed it befor, but editing will change alot the style as the model will look wrong in someway. It's the camera ;) as the angle. Thanks man =)
@zabuza2k: yey , thanks bud =D
@Miguelito: yeh, looked pretty wrong, i kinda redid that now, hope you like it more, better quality later ;P with pose.
@Yung: hahah, yeh man, i will see if i can polish the face ( dont really wanna touch the texture though, cuz i worked to much on it, i dont know whats right or wrong now) , i will try to fininsh till the old deadline =)

nooow, small update, i did the podest i want, low quality for purpose, but for some maybe the pose i wanna do is allready, clear, though i dont wanna rush =) (hope i will handle the rigging, wish me luck!)

[TryForce]

boredom, just showin i got main stuff done ;D

now texturing-, riggingfix and ill submit :cry: im so proud. I probably will do it finaly. After 2 years my first submitted thing!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/rigtest.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/rigged.jpg

[siilv]

Wow nice work!:)
a striking display~cool :thumb:

[TryForce]

hehe thanks :D

Anyway I DID IT!!! I SUBMITED!! MY VERY FIRST SUBMIT IN ONE OF MY COUNTLESS ENTRIES I HAVE MADE!!! ;D I LOVE YA'll!!! :) :)

Now, special thanks to Hunter: You supported me like no one else bud. You're great, really hope to meet once in real ;). And i hope we have contact for a looong time :D thanks man, you're a real friend.

Special thanks to: The_bird, Man.... after your feedback i just started to blow up with my skills ( i think) , thanks for your feedback, i will remember those tips for a lifetime!

Special thanks to those Chinese/Korean/Japanese people who regularly do this art and inspire me on every day.

THanks to all those people who replied and helped me in this thread, and also supported me!

Big thanks, to eclipse, yeh believe it or not, he is/was my teacher ;) since withouth his support and tutorial i wouldnt get any further with modeling i guess. thanks bud!

Thanks to enix, hehe surprise? ^^ Man, you are always the one i wanna beat! You're a good friend but also someone who has those skills i want to beat, since you're in my age you are my victim 'hehe' .

Now thanks to mom and dad and...bla aa blaa blaa , and friends XD

Hope you will enjoy my final-entry at the ending of this whole diseaster , haha.

Now i wont show up the Finals for purpose, (dunno why tbh xD, but sounds cool), but i have a special Winning pose render for you, :D thanks ya'll. Im soo happeh, whoo!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/TryForceX/beautypupblic.jpg

[typhus22]

nice work man but u do realise u have till oct 22 right?

[TryForce]

nice work man but u do realise u have till oct 22 right?

Sure i do, but when you work to much on a character you mostly go the wrong way :( and now i have the time i dont know where to improve myself. Also the original plan was the 15th. So sicne i started from the beginning i think myself i should stay true to myself somehow and finish it till the 15th.

;) hope i dont sound bad with it. But i just dont want to spend anytime more on it tbh.

[Hito]

looks very nice TryForce! Congrats!

[typhus22]

understood man, it is a beautiful piece and i just wanted to make sure u knew there was some time left is all. oh and congrats on finishing it ^_^

[ylaya]

whoaaa, you're already finished it... congrats to you!!nice job!!:thumb:

[tef]

Nice work TryForce. I don't know much about your past entry history but I am glad you finished this one and hopefully we will see each other again in future contests.

:thumb:

[Yung]

Congrats on finishing Tryforce! Overall it turns out nice but I wished you could still push it further! Still it's job well done. Once again congrats!

[YdoUwant2know]

Congrats on finishing. it really turned out nice.

i can fully understand your reasoning for submitting it when you did. but you really should take this time to make it the best you can. even if you just spend you time working on your base, it will still improve the quality of your final product. Never give in and say its good enough, fight till the end and make it the best that it can be...

[HntrLuc]

Great work man!
Glad to see it finished :D
Love the poses too!

[TryForce]

thanks ya'll :D

@tef: fo sure ;D
@yung: true, but you know my rason ;)
@ydouwant2know (aaah almost know how to spell it xD ):
Thanks man, true words, but how can you finish when you never say "its good enough" ;) you can't say it's perfect, but you can actually say: it's good enough :) . But i got your point, sadly i wouldnt even be able to continue

@hunter: ;D yeeey!!!


Uhm I sadly reformated my computer from Vista to XP back (yeh Vista sucks) and i accidently formated the wrong harddisk >_< .
I saved all my important stuff on the other harddisk...wich accidently, like said, got formated. I'm trying to rescue my old files with some receovery, but i bet its all gone now.

Still i think ;) i got to start from new in everything :D

[FredH]

Congrats on finishing man. YOu were an inspiration and a constant voice in everyone's thread, I am glad you still managed to finish your entry after putting a tremendous amount of work into commenting and helping others.

Good stuff. Better get some rest because the next challenge will be just as good... even better:D

See you around:thumb:

[Mike_inel]

I saved all my important stuff on the other harddisk...wich accidently, like said, got formated.
OMG!!! I'm gonna die if that happens to me! -.- Hopefully not...
You were an inspiration and a constant voice in everyone's thread, I am glad you still managed to finish your entry after putting a tremendous amount of work into commenting and helping others.
I agree. I'll be surprised if you won't get the community award. Thanks btw!
the next challenge will be just as good... even better
o_o

[TryForce]

Congrats on finishing man. YOu were an inspiration and a constant voice in everyone's thread, I am glad you still managed to finish your entry after putting a tremendous amount of work into commenting and helping others.

Good stuff. Better get some rest because the next challenge will be just as good... even better:D

See you around:thumb:

OMG!!! I'm gonna die if that happens to me! -.- Hopefully not...

I agree. I'll be surprised if you won't get the community award. Thanks btw!

o_o


ah man :D these are the kindest words i have ever heard :)

Well to my luck i got most files recovered thankt to O&O Formatrecovery 4.0 , good program.
Tbh i have to thank you fredH :D there arn't any anime Contest much around and especially this narutocontest was inviting for me. Now just not let the others down i thought about helping ;). thanks man :D im proud of myself as i said ;P you know that i have joined several contest and never got near finish actually. So here is the change :approve:


I'm chilling for sometime now, doing Prop modeling for the Naruto Mod and something else, Also im writing a Lightwave tutorial besides for friends, i hope i will translate well enough from german to english to publish it somehow. Though this tutorial will approve my Skills. If i will do it thats fine, if not i will keep up with lightwave then. It's just, i want to change to 3dsm since Lightwave aint much used around.


thanks again :lol:

[3dsquid]

nice work man! sorry to hear about your harddisk :( .. sure wish u got that community award :D

[FredH]

About your early finished entry.... You forgot to submit it before October 22nd 12p.m eastern time. There was a "submit finals" button that you forgot to press, or maybe you didn't see it. Really sorry man, but like Mike_inel, I have to disqualify you.


Ok, more seriously now (:p), would you like me to enter your entry into the finals?

[YdoUwant2know]

Man tryForce, make us all feel bad bragging how you got everything done a week early then you don't even submit. :lol:

I'm sure it was just because you wanted to be able to make some improvements. you know use every minuet you have to make it the best it can be... Yeah thats it, I'm sure :thumb:

[TryForce]

xD hahaha ah man :) thanks fredh, submitted :)

hehe it was just my first time :)

[Yung]

I know how you feel Tryforce. I panicked too when I read what FredH posted at your thread here hahahaha.

[asstornado]

congrats on getting the finish. Also getting to submit just in the nick of time. The model looks great.

[TryForce]

hehe i didnt panicked tbh :) i actually took it as a joke from the beginning. Still i dont think "normaly" it wouldn't haben like that haha :) thanks man.

Asstornado, getting a reply by you , im honoured :) thanks :D