Naruto Challenge | Snowfly | Rock Lee

[Snowfly]

Naruto Challenge | Snowfly | Rock Lee
http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/competitions/uploaded_thubnails/35-game-3d-art-55-1189004038-thumb.gif

Snowfly has entered the competition!

[kipiripi]

Chris,Are you in true section of this contest? This is 3d section :)
Take your tablet with Photoshop,go concept section and grab some price dude :D

[Snowfly]

Haha, thanks for the vote of confidence but I wanna mess around in 3D!

[FredH]

Yeah, when I saw you in the 3d section, I just figured you got lost:p 3D eh? Sweeet, this should be cool, but hopefully, you will make a nice pretty concept too:D

[scorn-maniac]

Man, Rock Lee is a fav in Singapore! Saw your site. Awesome works there. Looking forward to how this gonna turn out. :)

[Snowfly]

Damn...I just realized I picked the most fundamentally uncool character design.

Here's a color and silhouette study. More to come.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-2.jpg

[TryForce]

actually Lee is one of the most interesting persons i think xD

He should come like a cheap fuzzy brown infront of you, means roundish funny eyes, biiiiigg eyebrowns, as he always makes suck a smile: :>
his eyes sohuld be hidded with fireelement ^^

Also making him in a brucelee position will make more fun of him, also he never smiles within a fight!!!! he always is seriuos when he fights!!! you made him just smiling and acting completly different!


Also his nose is to much noticeable right now. Also Lee wasnt looking buffed like this, he maybe has great definations, but he is not buffed in my opinion.


otherwise i really like the colors and design!!!!

[Eclipse]

This is really rockin man (pardon the pun). It definitely has a really strong rock lee feel to it and you mixed it up a good bit to make it fresh. I'm really looking forward to seeing the 3d and texturing from you. Keep up the awesome work :D.

[SupRore]

Awesome, Snowfly. I think you could push his silhouette a bit more, still.

[Dominian]

You made a simple green suit kid into a really wicked fighter. The new suite design is great! (top one) Hope you will continue

[Snowfly]

Thanks for the suggestions! Here's an update.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-3.jpg

[TryForce]

YEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

im really digging this one!!!!

[Snowfly]

Thanks TryForce. :) I'm really trying to like the idea of keeping his eyes circular but it isn't my cup of tea. I'm sorta leaning towards the random asian guy dressed up as Rock Lee look, like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-4.jpg

Still exploring other ideas.

[SupRore]

Hey snowfly, this is looking really great. I definitely wouldn't confine yourself with the round eyes. It's pure anime stylization, and would be really hard to realize in 3d with your style. Personally, though, without the round eyes, I'd try to keep the eyebrows as close to the original concept as possible.

[Chasarsis]

I'm really loving your concepts so far dude, especially that first one. He's fricking hilarious, and you kind of give him a new personality :D

[Yung]

Looking real good on the outcome, Snowfly! The first concept reminds me a lot of the old anime characters, where the shonen story is usually about youth, and the face reflects that!

I personally would love to see the second one developed, as the last somehow does indeed look like someone else cosplaying as Rock lee, but SupRore made a good point.

[Eclipse]

Thanks for the suggestions! Here's an update.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-3.jpg

I definitely like this one the most, but either way I know this piece will be amazing. I'm really looking forward to the 3d on this guy. My only critique would be to be mindful of his leg-warmers. In the anime that is where he keeps enormous weights. You could axe them if you want, or just kinda work them back in a little more to your concept.

Other then that, if you did want to go with the smaller more realistic eyes, you could always switch over to Malto Gai. He looks very similar to Rock, but without the eyes of course. It could save some criticism from the anime purists while not taking a whole lot of time to switch the concept over to. Just a thought.

[Josh Singh]

This is looking bad ass Dude. I love the muted green. Did you Know he is a Master of Drunken Style? Sorry that's a bit of a spoiler if you haven't seen too far into the series, but It's one of the coolest aspects of Rock Lee and would make for some fun Design choices. It's cool to have him have a bottle of Sake. And yeah stick with normal eyes. Great stuff!

[Ged]

I really like your concept style, go for it man!

[zann]

Nice concept, nice color.
I will b watching :thumb:

[Indra]

ahhhhh snowfly cool rock lee
rockin dude

[HntrLuc]

This is looking incredible, I'm loving those colors!

[Snowfly]

Thanks guys. I'm still trying to choose between muted green and olive green.

Josh - Hehe, yeah I just saw the drunken master clips on youtube. Still knocking around ideas so I'll definitely try a sake'd version.

Anywho, just a quick concept sculpt to see how large I can comfortably bring the eyes in Zbrush. At least now I know, this is definitely not the look I'm after. :lucky:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-5.jpg

[ThE_BirD]

damn Snowfly, these concepts are lookin fantastic. Those proportions are great;)

[ThatDon]

Way to make this dork of a guy into a freaking PIMP!

MORE!

[kipiripi]

wohaa thats it chris,now you can grab prices from both category,concept and 3d.
Its looking really really nice,just need a bit cleaned it out,keep going.

[SupRore]

Awesome sculpting snowfly, I hadn't seen any of your stuff since that post in the 1hr thread months ago.

[Snowfly]

:)

K, a bit of an unnecessary step here since nothing was added to the concept, time to get to modeling I guess.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-6.jpg

[TryForce]

i liked the grungier collors more .....

[Snowfly]

Cheers tryforce, i might've bumped up the saturation too much since i'm working on a laptop monitor. will definitely keep that mind when i finalize the colors on the texture maps.

[SupRore]

I agree with tryforce, snow. The desaturated look in the first concept was really cool, for the design. Whichever way you go, though, this is still looking awesome. :)

[Japhir]

really amazing how you made this dull guy look so awesome! (at least, in my oppinion he's dull, his looks anyway)

[3dsquid]

he looks like little bruce lee! :D
nice concept..luv to see more updates :)

[funkdelic]

freaking awesome man, so far the best concept in this comp!
looking foward for more :D

[Snowfly]

Here are the initial sketches by the way, to add to the wip-ness of it all.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Action1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Action2.jpg

[Josh Singh]

This is pure badass Snowfly. Really a fun thread to watch.

[TryForce]

This is pure badass Snowfly. Really a fun thread to watch.

couldn't have said any better.

[zann]

Nice sketches, likes it :thumb:

[kremrhi]

really good style. I like your character.

[SpikeCB]

wow great concepts.
Did you learn everything by yourself ?
If so, did you use any books about anatomy ?
Cuz thats somethin I really need to learn.

[winsonk]

very nice concept!!
cool stuff man!!

[Xenobond]

Bushy-Brows is looking pretty freakin sweet, man!

[Vahl]

that's awesome snowfly :D

[nec9]

Rock Lee is by far my favorite character, I love what you have done with him so far keep it up :thumb:

[Marcus Dublin]

I can tell that you’re having loads of fun with this, keep it up it's coming along nicely!:thumb:

[Snowfly]

Okay spent a couple of hours on these. Just trying to bridge the concept a little closer to the original Rock Lee. And I'm still undecided about the head.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/ModelSheets.gif

[TryForce]

yeh the head doesnt look like lee at all, get his backhair more in beatles stlye, wich is kinda a second shape of the head:

http://www.animegalleries.net/album/773/img/43
-Backhair more like a second headshape
-forhair more longer
-smoothout the ear area

nice ref so far!

[mrkite]

Great concept development snowfly, really like those dynamic poses.

[damagecontrol]

looking good! Like the rotations alot.

[RocketShoes]

I really like the head style in this last one. Little bit of a Jamie Hewlett look to it. AHH! I'm digging your Lee!

[asstornado]

Awesome stuff man, I really like the energy of the sketches. Can't wait to see the model!

[eraQ]

I think what you did with his head is really good! You added your own style to him, but you can still tell its Rock lee! Love it!

[dkvdeeto]

damn, i love the progress and alternatives - i can't even pick one , they're all way 2 awesome................................................................................
one word for ya pal ! !
SUUWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEAAT ! !

[Snowfly]

Laying down the all important volumes, and I ran out of time. Costume change again. I've picked a definite direction I want to take this guy, it's a surprise. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Mesh1.jpg

[MoP]

Top stuff man, I like where this is going!

[Yung]

Agreed. Looking pretty solid. Good luck with the new direction. I believe many are waiting for the surprise :D

[Snowfly]

Nearly done with the base mesh, and I'm out of time again. In case it's not clear yet, I'm dressing him up in Akuma's gi and accessories. Well it was a nice idea in theory anyway, and I'm having fun so I'll go through with it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Mesh2.jpg

Ignore the silly facial features. They are placeholders while I figure out nice looking proportions for his face, without the modeling.

[SupRore]

I really liked the outfit in your ortho concept, snowfly. Whatever you go with, though, I'm sure it'll look pretty great. Keep updating! :)

[Yung]

Yeah I agree with SupRore, that somehow the model sheet's outfit looks somehow better. Still I am sure you know which direction to head to. Good luck and we shall all be waiting.

[Snowfly]

Thanks for the input. So I did a couple proof of concept sketches in my sketchpad today, and the Akuma spin with all the Rock Lee accessories on it looks like a-word. So looks like it'll be the jumpsuit after all.

Started hammering the head sculpt into shape. The hair is only a volume test for now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Mesh3.jpg

And the proof of concept before writing off the idea completely...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Concept-7.jpg

[SupRore]

Very cool, keep it up.

[neo_raziel]

Hey man, how are you?
I did'n liked the hair style, you're doing a little division in the front...look kinda strange for me (just personal opinion). Beatles style would be better.
The eyes could be a little rounder too.
I think the other costume is better too.
Sorry for being a pain in the ass, LOL
I liked your concepts man!

[Snowfly]

Hiya neo raziel, I plan to fill in the hair in front with planes.

Did some work on the sculpt. I'm taking a breather to learn how to merge the subtools together. Yeah this is my first normal mapped character...but I'm in it to learn.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Sculpt1.jpg

[ThatDon]

Proportion wise he looks pretty wimpy, give that boy some meat!

[Snowfly]

Hey Don thanks for that. I'm trying to find a balance between toned and gangly.

Argh, so many mistakes I made along the way.

-How do I assign UV groups at this point? Can I export my high poly meshes, UV them in another app, and import back in to ZB? I need those group masks.
-The retopo tut on ZB central only applies to base meshes. Is there any way to merge the head to the body?
-How do I bake the tattered cloth to an alpha?
-If I want the face to animate, should I have modeled him with his mouth open and with the eyelids shut?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/chrisdejoya/Sculpt2.jpg

I'll start on the hands, bandages, feet, and socks tomorrow. But for now...sleep!

[BiG ToE]

for your alphas, you should be able to make a oppacity map from your normal map. What I mean is, after you create your normal map, you will see where the ripps in the pants are, using that, you can paint in your black and white for the alpha.

as for animation, your fine modeling it with eyes open, mouth closed, just make sure you have enough geo in the eye area to close them, and geo in the mouth, to open it.

[Khanongsouk]

here's a plug in to merge objects in your subtools together.

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=46932&page=1&pp=15&highlight=combine+subtool

make sure none of your tools/objects have the same names. once you get them merged you have to export it then re import it again for it to work with the topology tools. or you can just export the high res mesh to another app and merge them there. you could re topologize in zbrush or do what i do
-export the lowest subd of the head and body to another app
-combine and weld the points together so it's one seamless mesh
-re import it into zbrush
-select it as the topo under topology
-adjust the projection range under projection to around .02
-go to adaptive skin and press preview
-bump up the division level to whatever you want
-adjust projection range if needed (you have to unpress preview)
-press make adaptive skin when done and smooth out and seams

viola! one seamless mesh. :thumb:

[god_gilaz]

wakkakakakaka we got same matter, but i've exploded all part in z-brush, the gud points is i can export parts by parts to my main 3d program, i can change my uv. at there. and i prefer to bake the normal at max.. the result is smoother then in z-brush, although more work.
especially in hi poly... my max feel like wanna die.
anybody, i need help in exporting the normal maps from z-brush. hehehehe help please

[SupRore]

Yo snowfly, why not just UV the lowpoly and use projections, like normal? If you do it in Max, you can bake an alpha channel too, four birds with one stone.