relocating for job , is it easy ?!!

[artist_cg]

hey , i had this thought , is it easy for big studios to relocate a person they need ?!

i mean lets say i submitted my work to a big studio , they like my stuff , then they look at my location , i am on the other side of the planet ,
so is it easy for them to send me visa ?!

i just wanted to know if location is a big matter in choosing between submissions ??
cause most of the time , i don't see it in the requirements

[sinz]

Dito minus visa.

In my earlier years I had some companies from cali contacting me and I declined them (stupid choice now that I look back) but I always wondered that myself.

Since it isn't in the requirements I think it's a big deal since it isn't there they really don't want to do that (at all) and it is the Hiree's responsibility.

I find being left to do it yourself to be a Huge berden especially since the hired individual doesn't know the area (at all)) and they do. Just my .02cents.

[Ramseus]

On getting a visa, a company is supposed to prove that they can't find any talent within the country before they go asking the government to let them bring someone in from outside the country. So you better blow them away.

[Blenderhead]

On getting a visa, a company is supposed to prove that they can't find any talent within the country before they go asking the government to let them bring someone in from outside the country. So you better blow them away.

I've never seen this before...source? Is it country dependant, or a world-wide rule? :think:

[JacqueChoi]

hey , i had this thought , is it easy for big studios to relocate a person they need ?!

i mean lets say i submitted my work to a big studio , they like my stuff , then they look at my location , i am on the other side of the planet ,
so is it easy for them to send me visa ?!

i just wanted to know if location is a big matter in choosing between submissions ??
cause most of the time , i don't see it in the requirements

Depends on the company.

If the company is absolutely committed to hiring the absolute best regardless of cost, then it isn't an issue.


I've moved from Vancouver, to LA to Montreal. Relocation generally isn't that big of an issue, as most well managed companies tend to see it as an investment.




The entire thing about exhausting the search within their own company I believe is pretty recent (Law Obama passed to increase employment).

I'm not completely sure what the exact details of it are, but I know of a few Canadians who went to the states pretty recently.


:)

[LowRez]

I've never seen this before...source? Is it country dependant, or a world-wide rule? :think:

it's a country by country law, The states and canada have some form of this law, the uk has a law like this but anyone in the EU doesnt need a Visa anyways. It's just a way to protect local jobs and make sure companys don't abuse the visa system to bring over average people who are prepared to work cheaper than local citizens...

[Wynn]

It really depends on the company and the country. Most companies in the U.S bring in foreign workers under the H-1B visa which applies to highly skilled workers. As far as I know, there is no requirement that employers need to prove they could not find U.S. workers before hiring H-1B workers. If there's a law for this then its recent like joxx said. I think the UK has something for highly skilled workers as well.


Canadian and Mexican workers come into the U.S. using TN Visas (I think thats what its called). There's no cap to the number of people that can use this visa and all you have to do is pay a fee (like a $100 if i remember) and prove your citizenship and the company hiring you has to write a letter telling the government how long they think your job will last, but this can just be an estimate because it can be prolonged indefinitely. Canadians can actually do this at the airport when they arrive, happens all the time.


artist_cg, if a company wants to hire you and they are serious about it, they can find a way for you to come in their country. It all comes down to how much money they are willing to invest in bringing you over. If a company says they will hire you but wont sponsor you to come in, I would look the other way.

[artist_cg]

seems like there is a hope after all , to get a job one day in a big game studio ,
damn now i gotta prove super skills so i would make it :D
thanks for the info guys

[sinz]

If a company says they will hire you but wont sponsor you to come in, I would look the other way.

This is actually my situation now... but I want the job, it seems to fit me so what the hell do I do... :(

[zeke3d]

my understanding is that they will not, because now studios are getting a sense of responsibility and integrity. they do not want to uproot people and change their lives just cause they are in a pinch. I would caution if a studio is enthusiastic to move you, especially if its in crunch time. if they seem eager to do so, ask them what their future is going to be like, they will most likely give you a pitch, but its your job to get beyond that and get the real deal. if its unsure, then dont risk being stuck somewhere where the job market is not that promising.

overall it can be a fun and exciting experience. weeeee :)

[FredH]

seems like there is a hope after all , to get a job one day in a big game studio ,
damn now i gotta prove super skills so i would make it :D
thanks for the info guys

Yeah, you gotta be pretty talented in order for companies to want to fly you in for an interview and then possible work. Also, if you know you are visiting an area, try get interviews while you are there. In the past, I almost worked for Ubisoft in Shanghai because I walked in one day and asked if they were hiring. They gave me an interview on the spot and gave me an art test. They liked that I was already in shanghai because they wouldn't have to pay for my transportation and they were glad that I was already familiar a little with the area. So I got the job offer. Unfortunately, at the time, I declined:uhh:

[KEDavidson]

what the hell Fred?!? everyone always say's just walking in and asking for a job is the ultimate nono but you do it and get one that you don't even take?!?
:ack: (wheres the outraged with jealousy smiley?)

[xerious3d]

Really sinz? to what country? Be interesting to know your current situation.

[Arreador]

Artis-cg, forget it, this guys want tell you the truth, theres not such a think like "relocation" for people who is in the other side of the world. I`m suffering the consecuences of being latinamerican. But, we can offer quality with very cheap prices !!!

[grimdc13]

Remember also that if you want to get a foriegn visa and your passport, Make sure you take care of your end when you file. Researching everything about your company and the loaction is crucial. Learn the language, customs, manners etc so you don't unintentionally insult someone by wearing a certain taboo color, cross your legs (in thailand you insulted your boss) or stuff your boss's business card in pocket(a nono in Japan and Korea). Even if you just speak english with your potential coworkers..try using polite english and no figures of speech..that doesn't translate well..like "what's up?".

[sinz]

Really sinz? to what country? Be interesting to know your current situation.

I am in the states and have no clue about working outside of the states, the position was in canada they just called this morning. It's right there to me but I don't know, I can't just work in canada without some form of legal mumbo jumbo hindering me.

I see it as a great opportunity never-the-less and it's not a big name company in anyway but it is work and I think I got a pretty good idea of what they want (work wise) and I have absolutley no problems at all with it, for me it's pretty much a perfect job and I really want it, so what do I do?:flag:

They said to contact them when my situation changes... ( '<' that's the blow off right?)

But I spoke with a few outsiders after and they have said to take a weekend trip over there and check the area and place out and if I was up for it to show up and say that I was contacted and that I am there for a tour of the buisness.

/\ A little reluctant about doing that. /\

How appropriate is that anyway? I mean Fred said he just popped in and said hi, pretty much and landed the job but also declined it. Which I am in shock over but hey he has his own reasons and I am sure they were valid ones.

I wouldn't mind taking a small trip to some place new but wouldn't the company staff get a little weirded out by me just showing up?

[KEDavidson]

e-mail the person who contacted you first and coming over for a visit shouldn't be a problem. what ere they actually refering to regarding your "situation"? just that you live in the states or your own ability to get a cdn work visa?

[sinz]

e-mail the person who contacted you first and coming over for a visit shouldn't be a problem. what ere they actually refering to regarding your "situation"? just that you live in the states or your own ability to get a cdn work visa?

Probably the work visa and that I live in the states as they said they were looking for canadian residents at this time.

Her exact words were:That They would really like me to get in contact with them through e-mail when my situation changes.

There was no e-mail contact I applied and she called me today and I really wasn't prepared to have that kind of a conversation but it was fine, I was very,very polite and I even mentioned about a work permit situation if that would be an option and she said the company isn't sponsoring and that bascially I would have to handle that situation and at the begining I mentioned that I would do what ever it takes to make it happen when she said you know this positioon is based in canada.

So after the call about an hour or 2 I sent her an e-mail basically saying:
If I have to move to canada to work for your company I would.

Seeing as when we had the phone conversation that part wasn't apparent enough, or she assumed that I wasn't interested because of the location of the position...

It just sucks to get my hopes up and then some how it goes sour, really puts a downer on things, but I am still working on stuff... what else can I do?:doh:

[FredH]

what the hell Fred?!? everyone always say's just walking in and asking for a job is the ultimate nono but you do it and get one that you don't even take?!?
:ack: (wheres the outraged with jealousy smiley?)

Oops, I would like to mention that in China, for a foreigner, anything goes. You are right, normally, it's a big taboo to visit a studio with no appointment, but in China, it's ok:D It's not very common for a non chinese to walk into a studio and ask for a job, so the element of suprise was on my side:)

[xvampire]

lol I ve been relocate to montreal ... :o since last year .. from vancouver
it feel like i dont have real place to settle since i left my country when i finished high school. ( I study abroad as well)
it require guts, and dedication to ur long term pursue.

about visa, .... -_- ... yes my bad as well, thats y i took college
to get knowledge and to be graduated from school and get the industry related visa as well .....
it is risky ( i thought that im making dumb decisions for so many times lol) , especially when i graduated the industry was in a bad shape real bad,

but im glad as an inexperienced, I got a job here .:eek: omg miracle!!
( and also not mention got very same prob like u guyz, got interviewed but cant get the job because of the various problem, so keep trying :) ) ,if u get a job already, and there is extra offer try to help ur friends.


btw
dont think visa too much or even worse, dont make it as a trumpcard nor the source of frustration ( even my awesome super duper talented, Canadian friend couldn't get visa to US, because she is inexperienced, but she manage to work as freelance with them, lucky!)

after all world are quite big than North america or Europe. and art business desperately need much more variation/diversity. :) :)!!