Dominance War IV | 3D | YdoUwant2kow | Alhazan’s Eye

YdoUwant2know · 02:37 AM

YdoUwant2know has entered the Competition.

Final Update: Tuesday May 19th 3:32 am.

Just after 3:30 am here, and I am finally able to submit my final images.

Just wanted to say thanks a lot to everyone that has commented. I am very happy with the result.

YdoUwant2know · 03-23-2009, 03:33 AM

I guess it’s about time I kicked off my own thread.

I am still trying to figure out exactly what I want to do. Given that most everyone is working on a robot or demon, I am 99% sure that I will be choosing norm. Although demon prince still sounds interesting. Right now, I think I am getting stuck on the idea of creating a good character not just a great model. I want to create something that would not only look great in a game, but be interesting enough to put in one. Then again it could just be my massive self doubt that has me thinking nothing is good enough.

Oh well, I guess I will just throw it out there and see what happens.

The idea I have kind of stuck in my head is to create a female norm invoker. Her primary weapon would be her artifact: Alhazan’s Eye. This ancient artifact has the power to change the size of any object. It can allow her to shrink even the largest of enemies to the size of an ant, or increase her size to match even the greatest of titans. Entire armies could be made so small; they could be crushed under her petite foot.

Given the power of the artifact, I kind of wanted to make her default size rather small. Something like eight to twelve inches (20-30cm) in height. To make this work, for a base race I was thinking of something like a sprite or pixie or some other fairy type creature. For the artifact itself, I was thinking of something the size and shape of a magnifying glass. While compared to the rest of the world, it would only be 6-8 inches (15-20cm) in size. Compared to her; it would be almost as large as she is in her normal form.

So that is the direction I am leaning right now. I have a few drawings and such that I am working on, and will post them up later. Just thought I would get this out there and see what people thought of the idea.

BeamUs · 03-23-2009, 04:14 AM

I like your musing but I would have to say her power is too overwhelming- that doesn't make for an interesting war does it? I would say you should limit the power, like only being able to change her own size or only one enemy at a time.

kongni · 03-23-2009, 05:14 PM

Sounds like a neat concept!
I think you could show the scale of the character by the size of the prop objects on the pedestal in the final renders.
I'll be checking back to see some 2D concepts!

YdoUwant2know · 03-23-2009, 08:16 PM

BeamUs: Too Strong? Ha, this is war!!
In all seriousness, I guess from a game perspective there would have to be some kind of balance. I'll take a look at it. However, for the sake of Dominance War, and the honor of GA, her powers are limitless.

kongni: Yeah, that was the plan. Use the base to show small size. Then for fun if I have the extra tri at the end, make a mini tank or something that she shrank.

So here is just a quick rendition to get an idea the clothing I was looking at. The colors are just for blocking in the objects, they are NOT the finals by any means. The final color set will most likely be a lot of warm colors, oranges, reds, and golds. Maybe some silvers and browns for the leg armor and a few pieces.

CnC welcome.

Ritorian · 03-23-2009, 08:21 PM

looks kool, whats the thing shes leaning on? weapon?

YdoUwant2know · 03-23-2009, 08:29 PM

Yeah, the gray object in the background is her artifact: Alhazan’s Eye. This ancient artifact has the power to change the size of any object or creature. It can allow her to shrink even the largest of enemies to the size of an ant, or increase her size to match even the greatest of titans.

The basic shape is going to resemble a very ornate magnifying glass when it is done.

JakeLV426 · 03-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Good idea with the eye, I think right now that has real potential. For the girl, what are you going to do to make her relaly unique and awesome?

Ritorian · 03-23-2009, 08:56 PM

ya the eye is a kool idea. but the girl needs something kool on her to really stand out. Maybe u can sexify her a lil more with some hot skimpy armor, try too emphasize her physique more, and lose the top cloth and replace it with some skimpy armor, maybe KINDA like Princess Laya in episode 6, but with a different design. Another kool thing to do, might be to make her hair really long and flowy, for some reason I see that on her. i'd maybe lose the shin guards (or just 1) and show more skin. Maybe some kinda High heel boots. idk just throwing ideas out bro, It's a good idea when designing girls to push there sex appeal to the max. cheers bud

look forward to a nice update.

JakeLV426 · 03-23-2009, 08:58 PM

Lol you just can't go wrong with Princess Leia in the gold bikini.
Nerd mecca right there.

glennyP · 03-23-2009, 09:06 PM

The idea is pretty cool and the concept is working well so far, but it seems like the magnifying glass/weapon thing is a bit too big. It doesn't really seem believable that she could carry this thing at her current size.

If she gets all her power from the artifact I doubt she would be strong enough to carry it.

YdoUwant2know · 03-24-2009, 02:22 PM

Ritorian: You kind of read my mind with the long and flowing hair bit. I know it is not in the posted concept, but for the last few days, every time I envisioned her, her hair was at least waist length. I will play with hair styles a bit later, right now I want to focus on trying to figure out clothing.

JakeLV426: lol, you have a good point there, I guess I will have to at least try it.

glennyP: Thanks. I did want it to be kind of big, but I guess you are right, I will shrink it down a bit for the next version and see how that looks.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I will try them out and see what I like. I am a little concerned about over sexing her though, I guess I am more of a girl next door kind of guy. Just thought I would post up another view of the current outfit to show that she is showing more skin than the front lets on.

Here is just a quick bit of some of the other tops and such I tired before your advice.

YdoUwant2know · 03-25-2009, 12:29 AM

Right, Well I went back to the drawing board with the outfit and tried to bring the sexy.

I got rid of the boot armor and replaced them with a nice set of thigh highs. I switched the pants for a nice mini skirt, and changed the top to open up the midriff while still leaving a bit to the imagination. I also lengthened the hair, and added a few armor pieces to keep the fantasy feel. To help strengthen the idea of her small size, I exaggerated some of the stitching and added a few buttons for scale. I also shrank the size of the artifact a little bit, and added a few accessories.

CnC welcome.

JakeLV426 · 03-25-2009, 12:32 AM

This is a great improvement, you can see you've put some good time into this!
Now I want to see you bring up her weapon to that same level.

3D Skillet · 03-25-2009, 12:55 AM

digging the mystery object

body is not so lady like at this moment, course i like the ladies with a little meat on there bones, so it may just be my own opinion

YdoUwant2know · 03-25-2009, 02:19 AM

3D Skillet: Thanks, but it is no mystery, it's just a place holder for her artifact: Alhazan's Eye. When it is done it will resemble an ornate magnifying glass, and will have the power to shrink any enemy to a nice small squishing size.

JakeLV426: Thanks, yeah I did about 15 sketches today in between everything else.

So I think I will let this concept sit for a bit and start on a few drawing of the artifact. Last year I made the mistake of taking the artifact too lightly and put it off till the end. Well not this year. I should have a few sketches up after work tomorrow. In the mean time, keep the CnC coming.

seven · 03-25-2009, 02:55 AM

She's coming along but I'm not sure I'm sold on the top. It almost seems like she's related to flava flave with her large buttons. I know that her size is suppose to be a little bit smaller but is it possible to emphasize that with something else? If not, is the size really a big deal since she's able to increase or decrease her size at any given moment? In which case isn't it plausible that she made herself large enough to fit into the woman's size she wants then she could shrink her and her cloths down? Maybe I'm thinking about this too much but that's just the way I am

YdoUwant2know · 03-25-2009, 03:12 AM

seven: Lol... The size change thing is a valid argument, and actually the same one I used to justify her first outfit to myself. I do like to idea of the oversized button to help set the scale, but perhaps you are right and I should look for a few other alternatives. Maybe a giant zipper ala kindom hearts. After all, can't be repeating the same thing over and over now can we.

BigJohn · 03-25-2009, 04:07 AM

Pretty cool.

To push the size thing, maybe use an object that is widely known to be small. Like a safety pin. If she had a safety pin that was half her height, it would make that point. Maybe a marble... dunno...

I think something like a button or stitches is something that we accept to have variable sizes. I've seen women wear jackets with big decorative buttons. Maybe not quite as big as you have them. But just a bit smaller. Emphasis on 'just a bit'. But I've never seen anyone with a 5ft tall safety pin.

Also, I think once it's in 3D, you could use detail to further show the size. It's like if you were to look at a small object through a microscope. You would see all sorts of scratches and dirt and detail you couldn't under the naked eye. So likewise, if you were to scale a small object up, you could see all those details again.

YdoUwant2know · 03-25-2009, 02:27 PM

BigJohn: Thank you for your input, yeah I fully agree with you on the textures playing a big part of the illusion of size. I have a few idea's on how to use a safety pin and a few other small things with some of her equipment. I will be fleshing out those idea's as I work on the artifact.

Not really a full update, but just thought I would throw this up and see it it made any difference. I removed a couple of buttons, then kind of as a joke, I tried the huge zipper thing... now that I see it, I kind of like it.

Right now, I think I will just shelve this for the time being and get some artifact and equipment sketches done. I'll give it a day or so and come back to this fresh see what I like. CnC still encouraged.


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